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Old 05-26-2006, 10:16 PM
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Just downloaded and installed the trial on my notebook.

It IS rather slow, but I guess it will just always run in the background, backing up round the clock.

I didn't see anything on their website regarding pricing for more than one PC. If you are backing up, say, one desktop PC and one Notebook PC, is their any difference in price? Or is it just the same for all PC's: $5.00 per month per PC?

Thanks.

BTW, thanks a lot for the tip, Jason!
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Old 05-26-2006, 11:13 PM
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Geez how long did it take you to upload 70 gig since broadband upload speeds are much, much less than download speed. I have a 10 Mbps download speed but only 512 Kbps upload.
It takes a while - I can do about 100 KB/s sustained upload (120 KB/s is peak), so that's about:

...360 MB per hour
...8.64 GB per day
...60.48 GB per week

It didn't go quite that fast, but it was pretty close. I had the initial 30 GB uploaded in about a week or so.
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Old 05-26-2006, 11:16 PM
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It IS rather slow, but I guess it will just always run in the background, backing up round the clock.
Yup. It's only as fast as your upstream bandwidth, but that would be the limiting factor in ANY online scenario, whether it be FTP, Web, or whatever.

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I didn't see anything on their website regarding pricing for more than one PC.
I don't think there's a bulk discount, because their service is already very cheap - it's $4.16 per month if you pay for one year at a time. Tough to discount that. ;-)
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Old 05-26-2006, 11:20 PM
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There was some scuttlebutt a while ago about one of the cable companies canceling customers' account who were extremely high bandwidth users. One of the people involved was running a 128Kbps radio stream 24 hours a day, effectively claiming 8% of a T-1 for his radio stream. The cable company invited him to go somewhere else.
Yes, that's not unheard of - in Calgary here if people are using up gobs of bandwidth they'll get a phone call. I've only heard of people getting the boot if they're running HPTT/FTP servers, which is a violation of the TOS. I pay an extra $10 a month for an "Extreme" package which gives me me faster upstream, downstream, and no bandwidth cap. I need it. ;-)
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Old 05-27-2006, 12:07 AM
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I have an Infrant ReadyNAS NV on order and have 4 500GB drives ready and waiting.

If anyone has any recommendations for Raid 0 1 or 5 I am open to input. 8O

Here is a review of the unit:
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2723

It will also work as a media server.
 
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Old 05-27-2006, 01:38 AM
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PC Magazine has a comparison of online backup services in its June 6 issue. They don't mention Carbonite, but they give an Editor's Chioce rating to Mozy Remote Backup 1.6 (beta) and SOS Online Backup 1.3 (beta).

Each had its advantages:

Quote:
Mozy
Pros
2GB of online backup free; low rates for more. Can get additional free space by referring others to the service. Tracks changes in background. Backs up automatically. Retains multiple versions of files up to 30 days.

Cons
All versions of backed-up files except the latest expire if no backup for 30 days. Limited number of restores per month. No file-sharing ability.

SOS
Pros
Handles open files. Performs continuous and scheduled backup. Backs up only differences for changed files. Stores unlimited versions. Has online access and file sharing.

Cons
Caches a full copy of every backed-up file, which uses a lot of disk space. Selection process for files to back up could be simpler.
I wonder how these compare to the features in Carbonite. The pricing is given in a table in the magazine but I can't find it online. Here are a couple of price points:

2GB
Mozy: free
SOS: $93 a year

10GB
Mozy: $30 a year
SOS: $237 a year

20GB
Mozy: $40 a year
SOS: $417 a year

The other two rated products were more costly.[/quote]
 
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Old 05-27-2006, 01:46 AM
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I too would never, never store my data on someone else's offsite system. If I don't care enough about my data to keep it safe, why would someone else. And the data would be private? Right? Like data stored by a government agency is safe.

About 10 years ago there was a popular offsite photo storage company that went belly up and so went many of their clients photos.

This is a bad, bad idea...
 
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Old 05-27-2006, 05:45 AM
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I too would never, never store my data on someone else's offsite system. If I don't care enough about my data to keep it safe, why would someone else. And the data would be private? Right? Like data stored by a government agency is safe.

About 10 years ago there was a popular offsite photo storage company that went belly up and so went many of their clients photos.

This is a bad, bad idea...
I would never store the sole copy of my data offsite, which is what your post seems to be inferring. Offsite backup has always been only 1 layer in data protection, never the sole storage location.

As far as privacy concerns goes, here is my thinking:

1. The vast majority of the things I back up, I couldn't care less if someone else saw. Photos of my family, nature, old term papers, etc... are probably of little interest to others, and if some employee there happens upon one and reads it (or even plagiarizes me for a college report), I could care less. Obviously if they use my idea to make $$$, then I'd get involved, but I doubt it would be hard to establish that I was the originator of the content in most cases.

2. The vast majority of employees at any company couldn't give a **** about my information or files. I work tech support for a webhosting company - I don't have the time or desire to look through our client's files, eventhough I have the ability. Unless they're crashing my boxes, I don't care.

3. Any information someone would want is already encrypted. My wallet file is encrypted. sensitive pictures / files / whatever are encrypted using rediculously long encryption keys, etc... If a malicious employee were running around their servers, I doubt they'd spend time hacking my ewallet when there has got to be someone who uploaded "credit_card_numbers.txt" to their store.

Maybe I'm not paranoid enough, or maybe I just feel that most of my data only has value to me (After all, the world wouldn't care if I lost a picture of my cat or an mp3 file here or there). For the extra protection and knowledge that I don't have to meticulously check my backup job statuses, I'll try it.
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Old 05-27-2006, 03:12 PM
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Jon,

Agreed. Of course I wouldn't send, say, my Quicken financial data, or anything extremely personal that could lead to ID theft.

But as far as digital photos, music, etc. I have no pressing privacy concerns there.
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Old 05-27-2006, 04:04 PM
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And the data would be private? Right? Like data stored by a government agency is safe.
I've asked someone from Carbonite to step into this thread and explain their privacy policy, but my understanding is that no one in the company can look at your data without a very specific procedure involving upper management.

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About 10 years ago there was a popular offsite photo storage company that went belly up and so went many of their clients photos. This is a bad, bad idea...
You'll notice I never stated that using Carbonite as the ONLY backup solution was suggested - you ALWAYS need a local backup and an online backup. The online backup is just a fall-back if something happens to your local backup.
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