Yet Another Sony Fumble - New Memory Sticks Don't Work With Some Vaios

[guinness]

Memory Stick's seem to be as bad as Smartmedia/xD, since they're overpriced and only the companies that created them, use them. (Olympus does include a CF slot in addition to an xD slot on their more expensive cameras, Fuji might too.)

And I believe that Duo cards are the Memory Sticks that are about the size of an SD card, not the 128+128 cards that Sony used to make. Do MS's suffer from the same problem that plagues SM/xD, the lack of memory controller? That seems like a plausible reason why the bigger sticks don't work.

Sony has been digging themselves into some hole this year; no Spidy 2 to bring up their movie studio profits, the music industry sucks, and who knows when the PS3 will arrive. The PSP has been decent/good, but it has more movies than games (although I've liked the SOCOM beta and GTA has been good so far).

[guinness]

Memory Stick's seem to be as bad as Smartmedia/xD, since they're overpriced and only the companies that created them, use them. (Olympus does include a CF slot in addition to an xD slot on their more expensive cameras, Fuji might too.)

And I believe that Duo cards are the Memory Sticks that are about the size of an SD card, not the 128+128 cards that Sony used to make. Do MS's suffer from the same problem that plagues SM/xD, the lack of memory controller? That seems like a plausible reason why the bigger sticks don't work.

Sony has been digging themselves into some hole this year; no Spidy 2 to bring up their movie studio profits, the music industry sucks, and who knows when the PS3 will arrive. The PSP has been decent/good, but it has more movies than games (although I've liked the SOCOM beta and GTA has been good so far).

[mversion]

I just bought a vaio notebook, and in all honesty, the fact that it had a memory stick slot did put me off. I don't own a single memory stick, nor will I ever. Proprietary stuff suck, and Sony are as bad as it gets. But the vaio is a sleek, mean machine when you stuff it with third party gear.

[Jerry Raia]

Yeah just ignore the slot. I can't even see it on mine. Hide the drive designator in explorer and its "out of sight, out of mind" :mrgreen:

[arb]

What is an oxymoron? Anytime someone uses the words Sony and Good. These are the people that try, at the consumer’s expense, technology that is obviously inferior to any or all on the market in the attempt to usurp other superior technologies. Good examples of these are, BetaMax, UMD, MemorySticks, Super Floppy 200mb, MD, and Blu-Ray. The list can go on and on, but the point is they do this because people support this think it will be fixed eventually. Sony is a one hit wonder; it made the “Walkman” that is it. I personally do not buy Sony because of continued problems and issues with their product. They also have a complex of “It’s a Sony”. So what!! Sony believes that since they are Sony, there will be and there cannot be any problems with their products.

Now what should Sony do to fix this problem? For one, open their technology and take criticism. Allow developers to develop on their products, include other formats on their technology. Allow consumers the right to choose media formats, features, etc.

For immediate solution for this Mediastick problem, Sony should either refund the customer’s money on the technology they purchased or provide free memory stick readers that are compatible with these new ones.

Thank you,

[Jerry Raia]

Originally Posted by mversion

I just bought a vaio notebook, and in all honesty, the fact that it had a memory stick slot did put me off. I don't own a single memory stick, nor will I ever. Proprietary stuff suck, and Sony are as bad as it gets. But the vaio is a sleek, mean machine when you stuff it with third party gear.

Another point comes to mind. There are now and have been in the past a lot of ports and connectors on laptops I never had a use for. The video output, the serial port, the docking connector and of course the Memory Stick hole. I just ignored them all. The laptop itself is still a fine machine. Think about it. Most of what goes into the laptop wasn't made by Sony anyway.

[Fishie]

Originally Posted by Jonathan1

Yah you will notice that they started embracing SD in a big way after the new CEO took over. I'm thinking that wasn't just chance. Here's hoping the PSP will include a SD or CF slot in the next version because that is the only way I will ever own a PSP.

Videogame consoles are locked spec so most likely it wont.
It would also anger the millions of people who already bought one, many of whom are already fuming over the new PSP Gigapack.

[Fishie]

Originally Posted by guinness

Memory Stick's seem to be as bad as Smartmedia/xD, since they're overpriced and only the companies that created them, use them. (Olympus does include a CF slot in addition to an xD slot on their more expensive cameras, Fuji might too.)

.

Sony does too these days.
They even rebrand Microdrives these days and sell em seperatly or in bundles with said cameras.

[Fishie]

Originally Posted by arb

What is an oxymoron? Anytime someone uses the words Sony and Good. These are the people that try, at the consumer’s expense, technology that is obviously inferior to any or all on the market in the attempt to usurp other superior technologies. Good examples of these are, BetaMax, UMD, MemorySticks, Super Floppy 200mb, MD, and Blu-Ray. The list can go on and on, but the point is they do this because people support this think it will be fixed eventually. Sony is a one hit wonder; it made the “Walkman” that is it. I personally do not buy Sony because of continued problems and issues with their product. They also have a complex of “It’s a Sony”. So what!! Sony believes that since they are Sony, there will be and there cannot be any problems with their products.

Now what should Sony do to fix this problem? For one, open their technology and take criticism. Allow developers to develop on their products, include other formats on their technology. Allow consumers the right to choose media formats, features, etc.

For immediate solution for this Mediastick problem, Sony should either refund the customer’s money on the technology they purchased or provide free memory stick readers that are compatible with these new ones.

Thank you,

Truth be told Betamax was a superior format that lost becouse Sony initially didnt allow porn to be released on their format.
Up until a few years ago Betamax and its ofshoots(like Betadigit) were still the standard used by broadcast companies.
Blu Ray too is a technological advancement over HD DVD and if it doesnt manage to takeover from DVD as the stanbdard for the coming ten years it will not be becouse IT SUCKS or whatever.
Regardles, Sony has been incredibly arrogant in the past and only recently seems to be changing.

[Duncan]

Sony - they make powerful devices but insist on crippling them every time.

I bought a Sony mini-laptop a while back that on the surface was great - except that its built-in BT was deliberately crippled (it wouldn't talk to a Pocket PC - only to Clies...!) and it was designed to only work with a specific (and very expensive) Sony branded DVD drive.

Not learning from my mistake I later bought a technically superior MP3 player (NW-HD) - then discovered it wouldn't even work properly with MP3 (never mind WMA) - just the proprietary ATRAC3 nonsense.

Now they release the PSP with a double whammy of Sony only rubbish - MS and UMD (seriously - is anyone really rich enough or stupid enough to buy films on UMD?).

Frankly they are idiots.

[arb]

Where I do not doubt or argue the fact that BetaMax was superior in quality etc, Sony just assumes that people want to put up with their crap. MS was and is a failing product, but they cannot drop it because they have devoted so much of their other product lines to use them. It is this closed mind that makes them suffer. The problem will come when enough people are burdened by this MS problem that Sony will finally give up and try to rectify the problem.

Of course as for UMD, Sony needs to produce a DVD/UMD player for home market so people so purchase UMD can enjoy them on a regular size TV. Or include a UMD disc with the actual DVD movie...