The average family won't need five copies though. Your set-up excluded of course! :mrgreen:
Five? No. But two or three? Very possible - and one of them is likely to be a laptop.
To be totally honest I can't see me dropping about a grand in Canadian funds to upgrade 3 desktops and a laptop. First off for the laptop, I think before I spend multi-hundreds on a new OS I'll buy a new laptop. Our laptop is fairly low end, so why spend big bucks on an OS. It comes down to upgrading one at most.
I have a feeling this may be the case for many households. XP has been very solid, and does what most households demand of it. The need to upgrade is not as great as it was in older versions. We may have more computers in our houses now, but they don't all need to be upgraded.
I have a feeling this may be the case for many households. XP has been very solid, and does what most households demand of it. The need to upgrade is not as great as it was in older versions. We may have more computers in our houses now, but they don't all need to be upgraded.
And that's EXACTLY what the barrier to adoption will be for Vista - not most of the complains raised in this thread, it will be the cost and the fact that XP is still a pretty good OS and the advantages of Vista will need to be VERY obvious to consumers along with a reasonable price for the upgrade.
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I am still happily running Windows 2000, because in my opinion all XP really added was some UI bloat—bundling in features that are done better and more efficiently by free/open source software anyway—at the expense of privacy and control of one's computer(s).
If you mean visual bloat, ok, there is more there. However, in 100% of the machines I installed XP on, from 128MB 300MHz dinosaurs to 1.6GHz screamers (at the time), XP was perceived to be faster - in every case. I didn't do any official benchmarking.
Just because XP added more stuff, it doesn't mean it slowed down because of the "bloat." Remember, Win2K was the first really new OS since NT4, released in 1996. 18 months later, MS rolled out XP, which was really Windows 2000 Pro but with many months of streamlining and optimizing, as well as adding some noob friendly features, most of which can be turned off.
UGH 7 different versions... Now not only do I have to ask users which OS they are running but then ask them the version and then determine if my solution will work with that specific version... Home and Pro was enough to get me mad.. This outright infuriates me. Just put in all the functionality in there you can use and just price it at what you think is fair. Don't be selling these gimped down versions and then coming up with some pricing scheme that will just make people who have to support the product's minds boggle even more. I can't wait for the first person I ask who tells me that they have Vista Home, I ask which version, I give them the 4 different versions, and they stare at me like a deer caught in the headlights.
(This I have even seen even with XP home and Professional so I know it'll happen even more with 7 versions out there.)
I know this is all marketing ploy but I really think it just sucks when it comes down to having to support it all.
And that's EXACTLY what the barrier to adoption will be for Vista - not most of the complains raised in this thread, it will be the cost and the fact that XP is still a pretty good OS and the advantages of Vista will need to be VERY obvious to consumers along with a reasonable price for the upgrade.
I'll bet there are some nervous folks around MS these days. They have obviously put a lot of time, resources, and money into Vista, and all its versions. It could be that with XP they hit a wall where the masses are quite happy with what they have. I doubt the average person outside of the tech industry gives a hoot about Media Centers, and ripping DVDs...they turn on the TV and watch what is on, or rent a movie at the corner store. How many people are going to need the added functionality. It could be pretty disastrous if the majority decided to stay with XP.
Gremmie your talking about PC RAM not video RAM right? 1 GB video RAM's pushing the envelope a little far I think.
Ah yes, PC RAM. All graphical processing has been moved to the GPU, so it needs to be kicking on that end too.
I agree with the comment above: XP helped improved performance on all machines. Thus, PC's could be fairly inexpensive because of the varying hardware you need. Apple's are the exact opposite, hardware heavy and very low variance--could this mean PCs might jump to the level of Apple's for the first few months of Vista?
Don’t really give a flying **** about Vista simply because of PVP-OPM. I'll be damned if I'm going to spend another grand on a monitor (Or close to it.) because MS wants some uber secure DRM connection from the HD content to the monitor. Don't care if the industry is pushing this. I shot my cash wad on my 2405FPW. I'm not getting another monitor for at least 3-5 years which means I don't care about Vista.
We'll see what road Apple takes in all of this but I have the suspicion they are going to screw the customer as badly as Vista is. :cry: The MPAA can all burn in hell as far as I'm concerned. :twisted:
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I've had enough problems with Home and Pro, I spent 2 days just upgrading XP Home on some Dell's a company had bought to XP Pro just so I could add them to a new 2003 Small Business Server Domain. It doubled the migration time for each PC. At least the upgrades didn't cause any major problems.
Having 7 versions will just confuse end users and drive techies mad trying to found out what version the user has and explaining to them why feature X or Y they have read about is missing or why Z won't install.
Aren't they doing something similar with Office 12 as well?
I'm quite happy with XP on my PCs and don't intend to upgrade unless there is something amazing in the new version.
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