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Old 02-26-2006, 08:01 PM
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Frankly, this is more what I wanted when tabletPC's came out. Something larger than a pocketPC, but not necessarily as full-featured as a laptop.

I ended up getting a Toshiba M200 TabletPC, but it's too thick to write on when it's laid flat on a`desk, and too heavy to comfortably use it while standing. I usually just end up using it like a laptop (and in fact, I've already ordered a dual-core notebook to replace it...after about a year).

I can see this being used more like what they intended tablets to be.
 
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Old 02-26-2006, 08:02 PM
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I liked the video, but I'm not sold on the concept.
I would likely buy one if it were to hit the $500 price range, but I would much rather see the flipstart pc become a reality in the 800-1000 range.
 
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Old 02-26-2006, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Rapson

The PDA market is losing out to smaller devices like the iPods (Have you seen any iPods bigger than a Palm III that sets the standard for the largest portable device to ever succeed in the marketplace? No.) , phones, gameboys, and others. Offering something that is LESS pocketable is not going to work. Even in portable game systems and video players people won't buy anything that won't fit in a shirt pocket. They know that they won't use them if they do buy them. See how Sony is already working on shrinking the PSP after sales failed to meet projections? See how Nintendo is redesigning the DS to get it back to pocketable GBA dimensions?

This latest Origami my stall development on the PDA side as developers and manufaturers are distracted. This comes at a bad time for WinMob and Palm who are already facing stagnant sales numbers. That will be frustrating to watch, especially as this new platform is clearly doomed to repeat the failures of history by repeating them.

It is not going anywhere.
I really feel that people should stop comparing iPOD to PPC. Those two ARE FOR COMPLETELY DiFFERENT PURPOSES!!! iPOD is ONLY for music while PPC is for many different general purposes. Sure iPOD are small, but all they have inside is HD!! BTW, if you want tiny 2-in, or 1-in screen, on PPC you can have the size of iPOD. PPC has far more stuff inside it's hard to achieve such small size. You guys must realize how limited iPOD is anything but music. The video capability sucks too.

PSP and DS are even bigger than Pocket PC, but they ARE STILL EXTREMELY POPULAR. Most kids and people nowadays wants power over small size. Even a lot of people I know are complaining that stuff are getting TOO small. For example, cell phone screen is hardly readable and keypad is just horrible due to small size according to my parents.

Don't be so disappointed about the origami project yet, previous leaked information did say that the device will cost less than 500. If it's true, it's will probably be a successful device. As fireflyrsmr said, this can be a great replacement for laptops.
 
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Old 02-26-2006, 08:10 PM
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I think the video shows how a smaller tablet PC could be very functional , and if thats what it is, than I am glad to see it. I have only been waiting for more tablet PCs of that size for the last 2 years now..

Though my Gut feeling tells me it's not a full tablet pc. having an idea of how Microsoft works, I think it's more lke a sub-tablet PC. Meaning it will have some PC functions, but it will not be a full stand alone tablet PC, much like the PPC platform is now. I think it will stll be depended upon a full blown PC fsome how.
 
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Old 02-26-2006, 08:34 PM
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my needs may be different, but if this device is what i think it is, and it can be used as a convertible tablet, and it has an active pressure sensitive digitizer for less than $1000, i may order one.
 
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Old 02-26-2006, 08:56 PM
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I always wanted to have something like this. Maybe little thinner and smaller, but still as full featured as possible, something like Sony U series or OQO, but without the hefty price.
I never liked "normal" notebooks - they are still too bulky and heavy and the PocketPCs on the other side are still not powerfull enough - I'm using currently HTC Universal as my micro notebook (not as a PDA - I use Wizard for my PDA) and it works OK, but the screen is a bit too small in full VGA and it lacks features like Video out (with accelerator like Axim x50v/x51v) and usb host and if you also consider that PPCs have a lot of crippled or not as full featured software as WinXP machines, my Universal can't really be what I want.
This concept could be exactly what I want, especially if the price will be really around $500. I just hope Microsoft won't do something stupid and cripple this with something...
 
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:15 PM
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I don't mind the size at all. I have an iPAQ 4700 and wish the screen was a bit bigger. I do a lot of reading on it (Mobipocket) and the text is clear as can be, but I wish I could put more on the screen. I also view a lot of PowerPoint decks and pdf files. It is difficult to read busy slides and impossible to view more than a small portion of a page of a pdf file and have it be legible. I don't want a very small phone that manages my calendar and plays tunes. I want a device big enough to be truly useful as a computer, but small enough to carry around. This might fit the bill. If it runs XP, I can read books on it, run spreadsheets from it, etc. It will kill the Sony ebook reader -- though Sony's insistance on everything they do being proprietary may kill it anyway.

Currently I carry my 4700 in a 7.5"x5.5"x1.5" binder and have a phone on my hip. It would be nice to be able to carry the iPAQ in my pocket, but adding any type of protective case makes it nearly impossible to do so, so I carry it in the binder, along with other essentials -- several travel reward cards (I frequently travel on business), a pen and small notepad, a spare stylus.

If I could sit in a meeting and take real notes on this thing and then get up and run my presentation from it, with the ability to mark it up like a tablet PC, it would be perfect for me.
 
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Old 02-27-2006, 02:36 AM
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can somone redefine to me what small and portable mean these days, because this looks like neither to me. I think this might be a way for MS to fix the SmartScreen fiasco that never took off.

Let's see it will be about $1400 or more, have a 40 gig drive, 1 gig processor and perhaps even a decent video card plus wifi and a 2hours of battery life but the os will sit on the chip so it will be instant on and off who knows.

Boring.
 
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Old 02-27-2006, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by msafi
my needs may be different, but if this device is what i think it is, and it can be used as a convertible tablet, and it has an active pressure sensitive digitizer for less than $1000, i may order one.
a high end PDA phone like the universal is more than that......I doubt this will be that cheap.
 
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Old 02-27-2006, 03:37 AM
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(first sry for Bug Me not logon, but I do not wish to register for 1 post)

First of all this could be amazing, I believe that the whole future of this device lies totally on advertising (knowing Microsoft there will be none) and more importantly on the price of this device. $600-800 would do the trick, if it is higher then the device will fail and join the ranks of Sony U series, OQO and numerous other portable devices that run full windows, however due to extremely high prices never become popular.

However this device could make it, which is NOT likely at all.
If the price is around $800, and let's say the device runs full version of Windows Tablet edition... Well at least in the video it showed WIN XP theme. Problem wiht PDA's and such devices is that not enaugh people have PDAS or similar devices. So file sharing and such becomes kinda useless.
 
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