[Tim Rapson]

Apple Newton, Laser PC1-PC6, Quikpad, Desknote, HP clamshell, Clio, Zoomer, HP LC100, Poquet, Atari Portfolio, Sharp Wizard, etc.

I expect there are dozens, perhaps over 100 mobile models that are proof of concept. Only Bill Gates who has enough money to waste and not one single original creative thought in his entire corporate body could drag this losing form factor out over and over.

The PDA market is losing out to smaller devices like the iPods (Have you seen any iPods bigger than a Palm III that sets the standard for the largest portable device to ever succeed in the marketplace? No.) , phones, gameboys, and others. Offering something that is LESS pocketable is not going to work. Even in portable game systems and video players people won't buy anything that won't fit in a shirt pocket. They know that they won't use them if they do buy them. See how Sony is already working on shrinking the PSP after sales failed to meet projections? See how Nintendo is redesigning the DS to get it back to pocketable GBA dimensions?

This latest Origami my stall development on the PDA side as developers and manufaturers are distracted. This comes at a bad time for WinMob and Palm who are already facing stagnant sales numbers. That will be frustrating to watch, especially as this new platform is clearly doomed to repeat the failures of history by repeating them.

It is not going anywhere.

[Tim Rapson]

Apple Newton, Laser PC1-PC6, Quikpad, Desknote, HP clamshell, Clio, Zoomer, HP LC100, Poquet, Atari Portfolio, Sharp Wizard, etc.

I expect there are dozens, perhaps over 100 mobile models that are proof of concept. Only Bill Gates who has enough money to waste and not one single original creative thought in his entire corporate body could drag this losing form factor out over and over.

The PDA market is losing out to smaller devices like the iPods (Have you seen any iPods bigger than a Palm III that sets the standard for the largest portable device to ever succeed in the marketplace? No.) , phones, gameboys, and others. Offering something that is LESS pocketable is not going to work. Even in portable game systems and video players people won't buy anything that won't fit in a shirt pocket. They know that they won't use them if they do buy them. See how Sony is already working on shrinking the PSP after sales failed to meet projections? See how Nintendo is redesigning the DS to get it back to pocketable GBA dimensions?

This latest Origami my stall development on the PDA side as developers and manufaturers are distracted. This comes at a bad time for WinMob and Palm who are already facing stagnant sales numbers. That will be frustrating to watch, especially as this new platform is clearly doomed to repeat the failures of history by repeating them.

It is not going anywhere.

[Demens]

YATFMDTISTETBATE!

Yet Another Tablet-pc From My Dreams That Is Too Expensive To Buy At The End. :roll:

Allthough they seem to advertise it to the younger age groups.

[jhat3k1]

Tim Rapson

As far as Palm you are correct, I think they would love to be as good as stagnate. As far as WinMob you couldn't be further off base. They are picking up market share at a furious rate, even on symbian which holds better than 60% stil. % years from now that will be MUCH, MUCH different. I would say that bythe turn of the decade m$ will hold near 50% market share or better. This number is also skewed due to the fact that symbian runs on so many "regular" phones.

[DuaneAA]

They need to wait for those roll-up thin screens to hit the market so you can have this size of display and still fit it into your pocket. Then the concept will sell.

[alabij]

Nice Video. I like the way information was being transfered between devices so seamlessly. However, haveing used Windows since 3.1 and Pocket PC since 2000, I gotta say no MS product till date works seamlessly.
Activestink barely works as it is. Who is MS kidding. This is not the first time that Microsoft is pushing the Tablet PC mainstream. I think it is the 3rd.
The truth is that in the future all PCs will be touchscreen but we just aren't there yet.
That thing looked big and bulky.

[Kevin Daly]

Sadly, the video seems to be no longer available :-(

If it looks like an OS X display, then unless there are OS X-specific features clearly in evidence my guess would be that that it was running a version of Windows Vista.

For everyone who's complaining about the form factor: It's too bulky compared with the way you would currently use a Pocket PC or a phone. That doesn't mean that it's inherently too large. Do people complain that paperbacks are a ridiculous size because you can't slip one in your pocket?

And as for the smartphone being the answer to everything: for many, many purposes the screen is simply too small (which another level up is also true of the Pocket PC). And they are completely unsuitable for serious text input (and yes, some people still know how to write complete sentences of unabbreviated words, and would like to do so).

I personally have two concerns: one is the obvious one about cost, the other (which may have some impact on the first) is whether they have used a version of Windows that is sufficiently modular that it excludes features and complexity that are not appropriate to a device of this size (I remember having a discussion at a user group meeting a few night ago about how Windows Embedded might be a good choice for such a device, without Origami itself having come up...maybe this is Vista Embedded?)

[fireflyrsmr]

After purchasing an SP5 I am using the ppc a whole lot less but I do miss some of the functionality but not enough to carry the ppc as religiously as I once did.

I am in this camp. The little smartphone does so much that I want on an all the time basis. The laptop is too big to even consider carring unless I know it is going to be needed. This size device seems perfect to me when I am roaming the corporate physical space - have presentations to give and notes to take but won't be doing any analysis or photoshop or any other kill the cpu thing. I've noticed at work that the engineers around me have not up graded from the initial wave of palm devices. more power in the pocketpc is not compelling for these folks. they would rather carry the laptop. It has to have laptop function and the ease of laptop function (read screen size is to small on a shirt pocket device) for them to spend money. I think they are trying to kill the ppc and laptop with this device, and it works for me. When I'm doing cpu killing work I want huge screen(s) in front of me and printers making printouts. The trick for me would be to convince the IT guys to let this thing access lotus notes and intranet.

[Patrick Y.]

Originally Posted by Demens

YATFMDTISTETBATE!

Yet Another Tablet-pc From My Dreams That Is Too Expensive To Buy At The End. :roll:

Allthough they seem to advertise it to the younger age groups.

I thought the leaked detail said that it will be less than 500?

[mr.brainstorming]

Well, I said "cheaper" not only I hope it to be cheaper but also because of this:

He also points back to an earlier Engadget post saying "According to at least one report, Bill Mitchell, Corporate Vice President of the Mobile Platform Division, showed a slide that outlined specs for the new PC category, including that it be wearable, always on, no larger than 10-inches, connected through 3G networks, pen-based, and have a suggested retail price of $500 or less. … One notable spec that could differentiate this one: Microsoft is apparently insisting that this run the full version of Windows."

(mobileread)

PDAs are pocketable, but that means smaller screen for me. I like PDAs, but in my opinion small screens are not suitable for reading and taking notes. On the other hand, laptops are too big, and smaller laptops are very expensive.

BTW, you can download the video from here: http://www.pdamexico.net/content/view/2032/2/

[Gen-M]

This looks like a Sony U71p streched to closer look like a PSP. Sony pulled the U71 series.

There has to be a better way to achieve small size and large viewing real estate. Maybe Head mounted displays, Maybe pull-out/fold-up displays. NOT make the device as big as a useful display.

As far as the form factor - I'd rather use a Flybook. It's about the same size with keyboard and cell phone built in.