[innersky]

Originally Posted by Kirk Stephens

An actual keyboard or having a touchscreen is a necessity for these smart phones (in my opinion :P).

A full text clip-on keyboard will be available for these phones... (at least for the Sendo)

[innersky]

Originally Posted by Kirk Stephens

An actual keyboard or having a touchscreen is a necessity for these smart phones (in my opinion :P).

A full text clip-on keyboard will be available for these phones... (at least for the Sendo)

[JonnoB]

Originally Posted by innersky

A full text clip-on keyboard will be available for these phones... (at least for the Sendo)

The HP already has a keyboard.. the same one that works on the 56x model will likely work on the 928

[innersky]

Originally Posted by JonnoB

The HP already has a keyboard.. the same one that works on the 56x model will likely work on the 928

:? Kirk was talking about Smartphone 2002, not Pocket PC Phone Edition.
(danm, those names are long)

[JohnnyFlash]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

The other is a big-*** PDA with a keyboard and a phone globbed onto the back.

:roll: Hehe! Interesting choice of words. Yes, very interesting. Not quite accurate, but interesting nonetheless.

[pete]

Originally Posted by Chubbergott

:roll: Hehe! Interesting choice of words. Yes, very interesting. Not quite accurate, but interesting nonetheless.

Might I add that the Communicator is currently the best selling big-ass PDA+phone combo.

Let's put it this way: is the Communicator a brick if you can take it to a client meeting instead of a laptop? It's a business tool and definitely as small as it can be in terms of usability... therefore it doesn't compete with its size.

[JohnnyFlash]

I know you guys think I'm being cantancerous (and maybe I am). It isn't that I think that the Nokia 9210 can do everything the PocketPC can. I admit, it can't. That game that was posted earlier this week, the 3D space one, I can't see that being done on my PDA, and where's SimCity? It has very limited RAM and no CF slot.

But, it does the job (Word, Spreadsheet, Project Planning, Contacts, E-Mail, FAX, SMS - things which some guys here treat as new features that only Micro$oft has thought of) and, in some areas, it does the job better than a PocketPC. In others, it doesn't.

But the reason I'm so underwhelmed with the Smartphone is that I've seen the competition. Nokia didn't cut down the 9210 in order to put it into the 7650. The flexibility of Symbian means that they don't have to design the phone around the OS! Just take a look here and you'll see what I mean.

[bbarker]

Not much said about the calendar application - is that because it is pants? Remember, Software Matters.

Several of you have used the term "pants" in this manner. What does it mean? I've never heard of the term before.

[Rafe]

The Nokia 9210 is the best 'smartphone' on the market at the moment. The thing is its not really a smartphone, it a Communicator, it is intended to be a mobile business tool, it is meant to be a PDA and then a phone. Most mobile execs will have this and then a seperate phone.

The Nokia 7650 will compete against Smartphone 2002 devices. It is a better phone and will be available shortly. here is a phone with extra 'smart' capabilities. It wil do well not just because its Symbian based (and at the moment this is a far superior OS to the MS offering both it functional and user terms and more importantly [for performance, stability, battery life, flexibility] the ways it is written), but also because it is Nokia who have a big share of the market, who have the distribution channels and who produce good looking phone. The 7650 certainly looks to be the sexiest 'smartphone'.

The flexibility of the Symbian OS is an important point - you design the phone and the oS will fit it. You dont have a fixed screen size, you can use which components you like. This is why manufacturers like, it will be less restrictive then MS SP 2002. This is perhaps best illustrated by the fact the 7650 is the first in a whole line of 7650 smartphones, this is in the imaging class, there'll probably be 2 or 3 more. The other manufactuers will also produce them. Sony Ericsson is close to release, as are Motorola and others.

Symbian will win (take the largest market share by a long way) at the end of the day because its a better product (although of course this is an opnion), but more importantly its got the backing of 80% of mobile phone manufacturers and it has products on stream now. It has three classes of OS designed for phone (not designed down from desktop to PPC to phone). The Smartphone (formerly known as Pearl) will compete with Smartphone 2002, the UIQ interface will compete with PPC phone Edition and the Communicator (9210) doesn;t really have any competition at all. Its a seperate category altogether.

If you dont understand some of the technical terms I've used (Symbain designs etc.) have a look at the website in my sig - it should clear things up as it represents one of the few Symbian reporting sites on the net.

Rafe

[Thor Gunnarsson]

Originally Posted by Mr. Anonymous

The Microsoft Smartphone site shows 'screenshots' of Rebound and Doom, sized down to make you believe they are running on Stinger. Aside from the control issues, I'm wondering about the memory and processors in these devices. The only thing I've read is that the smartphone from Sendo is slated to have a TI processor and 16 mb of memory.

Depspite any claims to the contrary, our game Rebound is indeed running on Smartphone 2002, at least it was on the phone we demoed it on at the 3GSM conference in Cannes last week :wink:

-thor@ideaworks3d.com