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Old 02-19-2002, 07:38 PM
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So what's the major difference? Hardware? (PDA with phone built in as opposed to phone with PPC2002 running on it)? I guess I've gotten lost in the shuffle of this already. Here's hoping when the time comes I can just point and say "that one".
Pocket PC 2002 phone edition is a Pocket PC with built-in phone capabilities. An example would be the HP Jornada 928.

A Smartphone 2002 is a cell phone with some built-in PDA capabilities as well as wireless internet.

Hope that helps you out.
Take a loot at the screenshots. The visual helps out the most in distinguishing the two platforms. I almost wish they were both the same OS, with just a different screen size and a few custom applications for input. Would be easier for developers.
 
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Old 02-19-2002, 10:46 PM
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Smartphone 2002 and Pocket PC Phone Edition use the same operating system: Windows CE 3.0.

Different form factor, screen size and implementations of the core applications.
 
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Old 02-19-2002, 11:17 PM
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Smartphone 2002 and Pocket PC Phone Edition use the same operating system: Windows CE 3.0.

Different form factor, screen size and implementations of the core applications.
Let me rephrase... the same implementation of the OS, with retargetable graphics and custom application and input options.
 
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Old 02-20-2002, 03:00 AM
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Smartphone 2002 and Pocket PC Phone Edition use the same operating system: Windows CE 3.0.

Different form factor, screen size and implementations of the core applications.
Let me rephrase... the same implementation of the OS, with retargetable graphics and custom application and input options.
Yeah, sorta but it is a totally different interface. Not any similarity as far as input goes at all. I don't think there is anyway to make them close to the same for developers sake. You would have to add touch screen and all sorts of other stuff.
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Old 02-20-2002, 03:42 AM
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My conclusion is that there is no comparison between this and the communicator ( www.twyn-y-berllan.com/n9210 - 'Nuff Said )
Exactly - there is NO comparison. Know why? :twisted:

One is a PHONE with some PDA characteristics.

The other is a big-ass PDA with a keyboard and a phone globbed onto the back.

I think the communicator is a very interesting device, and I'd love to see one in person, but it's nowhere near the Smartphone 2002 size and usage pattern. It's a completely different device that is obviously wonderful for people like you, but you can't compare it to a Smartphone that will sell for half the cost, no keyboard, much smaller screen, etc.
 
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Old 02-20-2002, 03:44 AM
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Will Smartphone 2002 offer a touch screen inteface, or is it all button/menu input?
Button/menu - the concept of one-handed operating is VERY critical to the product. It's a cell phone first and foremost - trying to use a touch screen while driving/walking is a dangerous thing, while one-handed operation is much easier. 8)
 
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Old 02-20-2002, 04:47 AM
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The other is a big-ass PDA with a keyboard and a phone globbed onto the back.
he he he, you said it Jason. :lol:
If it wasn't such a brick I might be interested. There is no comparison between a phone and the 9210, they're just not the same kind of device.

If I was going to compare anything, it would be a Handheld PC and the 9210 (if you were going Nokia/MS comparisons), pop a Nokia PhoneCard 2.0 (ha, the irony) into the Jornada 720 (for example. were there any others?) and then make your comparisons.

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Old 02-20-2002, 05:06 AM
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Button/menu - the concept of one-handed operating is VERY critical to the product. It's a cell phone first and foremost - trying to use a touch screen while driving/walking is a dangerous thing, while one-handed operation is much easier. 8)
Trying to use a cellphone while driving is a VERY dangerous thing...and soon to be illegal in more states than just NY.
 
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Old 02-20-2002, 06:36 AM
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Trying to use a cellphone while driving is a VERY dangerous thing...and soon to be illegal in more states than just NY.
Remember way back when they brought out the Auto PC? They made games for that think.

I don't know why anyone would think they could actually use the PDA part of a SmartPhone while driving. Same thing goes for your PDA...my iPAQ has a hard enough time with my handwriting when I am sitting still.
 
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Old 02-20-2002, 08:00 AM
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While I think these new breed of smart phones are very cool, I find it hard to see how one could exploit the full functionality of an OS on a phone's interface. Having to punch a number key 3 times to get to the letter you want is ridiculous. I think the nokia communicator 9210 has the right idea with their design. An actual keyboard or having a touchscreen is a necessity for these smart phones (in my opinion :P).
 
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