[nirav28]

I don't have a 7110 ,but i do have a 7160 from cingular here in the u.s and it would have to agree with you'll that it highly sucks.

The phone has a tendency to shutdown without any reason. I think this is due to the battery contacts on the back of the phone. (it uses the same battery as the 51xx/61xx series). Also the slide becomes loose after some time , so the phone doesn't properly end a call when you shut the slide. Several times, I've had to open and shut the slide to end a call or manually hit "end" .

I bought it because I liked the phone they had in the matrix. this was similar (minus the button to open the slide).

[nirav28]

I don't have a 7110 ,but i do have a 7160 from cingular here in the u.s and it would have to agree with you'll that it highly sucks.

The phone has a tendency to shutdown without any reason. I think this is due to the battery contacts on the back of the phone. (it uses the same battery as the 51xx/61xx series). Also the slide becomes loose after some time , so the phone doesn't properly end a call when you shut the slide. Several times, I've had to open and shut the slide to end a call or manually hit "end" .

I bought it because I liked the phone they had in the matrix. this was similar (minus the button to open the slide).

[Daniel]

Originally Posted by JMountford

Daniel you may be right about standardizing, but I doubt it will ever happen. I find it so blam dang doubtful that Verizon and Sprint PCS have any intention on completely rebuilding their networks to use GSM/GPRS. I do know that AT&T is switching from TDMA to GSM/GPRS so I guess TDMA is gone but CDMA is here for at least a very, very long time. And have you ever noticed that with the exception of onyl a few companies like TI OEMs do not exist in America for cell phones. We rely on out of country Manufacturers for our phones. It kinda bites.

The US really needs change in this area if there is to be real innovation. It's sad but true, kind of a viscious (sp?) cycle: bad networks = no demand = no investment = bad networks.

Originally Posted by JMountford

PS. Thanks for the Infosync link I'll take a look.

No problem.

Originally Posted by nirav28

The phone has a tendency to shutdown without any reason. I think this is due to the battery contacts on the back of the phone. (it uses the same battery as the 51xx/61xx series).

Fold a peice of (thin) cardboard over a couple of times and put it in between the phone and the battery, that should "solve" the problem.

Originally Posted by nirav28

Also the slide becomes loose after some time , so the phone doesn't properly end a call when you shut the slide. Several times, I've had to open and shut the slide to end a call or manually hit "end".

I had the automatic-reboot-on-use-of-flip feature, very, very, character building. I am surprised that the phone is still in one peice.

daniel

[JonnoB]

Just like some services are offering hosted voice dialing, now we can see real use of voice recognition on the phone itself. Hopefully smart enough to check your command against your contacts database.

[JMountford]

Thanks to Daniel's link I spent some time looking at Infosync. I have always loved this sight. Great scuttle butt they get. I see that Nokia is apparently planning on releasing a 1xrtt CDMA handset. THat would be great especially if it has Bluetooth and works on the Sprint PCS network. Sprint PCS and Nokia had a falling out a few years ago and since then even the Nokia CDMA phones that do get released here in the states do not work on the Sprint PCS network. Politics in technology sucks for the consumers.

I would almost agree that America needs standards but what makes America great is competition take that away and what have we got?

If any one comes across any good CDMA news please let me know. I have been with Sprint PCS too long to switch.

[innersky]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci...00/1829606.stm

look at the last paragraph of the article.
Release date end of June ? Duh.

[Kemas]

A little known fact. All of you GSM users, you will be using Wide CDMA before the end of the decade. All carriers are moving to Wide CDMA, as far as I know that includes all European countries. The simple issue is that high data speeds are only possible with this standard. GPRS will go away in a few years and be replaced with Edge, that will give GSM users about 384kbs speeds. Then the next step is Wide CDMA and 2.4 to 4Mbs.

Of course, I really don't believe much of this will happen and wireless data on phones will die a slow and painful death. It will cost the US over 5 billion dollars to get to Wide CDMA and they will never make the money to pay off the switch.

For those who think the mobile phone companies here, AT&T and Cingular (remaining players in TDMA) should have switched to GSM long ago... why? People want to make phone calls, 99% of the time that is all they want to do. Not play games, not send messages, make calls. I don't like TDMA very much, but hell, it works and was almost everywhere that people lived. The build out began long before most networks were being built in Europe when GSM was decided to be the best choice for Europe.

Sprint and Nokia... Nokia didn't pay much attention to Sprint's technology, CDMA, or their network and Nokia phones didn't work well at all. Besides, anyone who has used a great number of phones no that the two worst OS on phones belong to Motorola and Nokia. They are exceptionally hard to use. I am talking of their basic phones, not the Communicator devices and the like. If you have used a Samsung phone or a Sanyo phone, they have phone OS's that are easy to use, quick and best of all feature rich while to the point. A phone is for making calls. That is all it is for and will never be much good at doing anything else.

The data networks..... wake up. I would love it to happen; but only because I love gadgets. The real hardware isn't out today to take advantage of these future high speed data networks. They are going to have to invent great hardware that can be used anywhere for long periods of time and that is not "ugly" or considered "un-cool" by the majority of USA users. I don't live in Europe, so what Europe does just has little affect on me. They are making some cool strides, but there is a long road to travel down.

Finally, do we really need to be this connected to the universe? What good does it do? That would be a very interesting thread.

Kemas

[vetteguy]

Originally Posted by Marlof Bregonje

Button/Menu. 100% sure. That's how they make one handed operation possible: you don't need to have the device in one hand, and a stylus in the other. All is done with the keys.

Taken from the Microsoft Mobile Devices website: "Easy dial with finger or stylus". So does that just mean that it's POSSIBLE, or will be built-in to these units? Also, with the hardware shown on that site, why do I get the feeling we're approaching the day of the $1000 cell phone?

[marlof]

Originally Posted by vetteguy

Taken from the Microsoft Mobile Devices website: "Easy dial with finger or stylus". So does that just mean that it's POSSIBLE, or will be built-in to these units? Also, with the hardware shown on that site, why do I get the feeling we're approaching the day of the $1000 cell phone?

Don't mix the Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition info with the Smartphone 2002 info. The site you mention is Phone Edition: a regular Pocket PC ( with touchscreen ) with added phone and data capabilities. The Smartphone I spoke about has NO touchscreen. It's a one handed thing.

[vetteguy]

So what's the major difference? Hardware? (PDA with phone built in as opposed to phone with PPC2002 running on it)? I guess I've gotten lost in the shuffle of this already. Here's hoping when the time comes I can just point and say "that one".

[spg]

Originally Posted by vetteguy

So what's the major difference? Hardware? (PDA with phone built in as opposed to phone with PPC2002 running on it)? I guess I've gotten lost in the shuffle of this already. Here's hoping when the time comes I can just point and say "that one".

Pocket PC 2002 phone edition is a Pocket PC with built-in phone capabilities. An example would be the HP Jornada 928.

A Smartphone 2002 is a cell phone with some built-in PDA capabilities as well as wireless internet.

Hope that helps you out.