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Old 02-19-2002, 02:40 PM
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It's certainly not designed for the professional user - or do Micro$oft expect people to buy one of these and a PocketPC?
These are two products for quite different markets. For someone who needs a phone with added functionality, take Smartphone 2002. For someone with the need for a small computer which can also be used as a phone, take Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition.
 
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Old 02-19-2002, 03:21 PM
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I know it's superficial, but style counts. Remember when the 7110 first came out? Everybody wanted the phone that looked like the phone from the Matrix. Forget it's excellent functionality, they just wanted to flip a cover!
Mind you, after owning a Nokia 7110 for a short while I came to realise that it was the worst phone ever designed. Everyone I know who's owned one has the same complaints, that you can't reach the buttons on the bottom row as the flap part-covers them, the keylock doesn't work as it is nullified when the flap comes down and that the phone would turn itself off at unlikely moments (one duff battery I can cope with - we're talking upwards of 15 phones here in my representative sample).

On that record, maybe sticking with the boring-looking phone will be OK... Just to be on the safe side, where is the soft-reset button?
 
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Old 02-19-2002, 04:02 PM
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Will Smartphone 2002 offer a touch screen inteface, or is it all button/menu input? :?:
 
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Old 02-19-2002, 04:03 PM
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Mind you, after owning a Nokia 7110 for a short while I came to realise that it was the worst phone ever designed. Everyone I know who's owned one has the same complaints, that you can't reach the buttons on the bottom row as the flap part-covers them, the keylock doesn't work as it is nullified when the flap comes down and that the phone would turn itself off at unlikely moments (one duff battery I can cope with - we're talking upwards of 15 phones here in my representative sample).
Add me to your sample space, the 7110 was the worst phone I have ever owned and has certainly turned me off buying another Nokia without a damn good reason. Mine had all the "features" that you mentioned. The 7650 is another of the 7 series "new design paradigm" models; Give that one a big miss!

I have to say BTW that the T39 is by far the best phone I have owned or used. Excellent.

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Old 02-19-2002, 04:04 PM
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Will Smartphone 2002 offer a touch screen inteface, or is it all button/menu input? :?:
Button/menu. 99% sure.

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Old 02-19-2002, 04:24 PM
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The interface will be hardware input. IE Joysticks Buttons NOT touch screen. I am sure that an OEM could use touch screens but imagine the price increase!!! Not to mention MS wants "one handed" operation. THe color screen will add price enough. Touch puts it out of reach of normal consumers especially in the current economy.
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Old 02-19-2002, 04:30 PM
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I would normally Agree that "Software Matters", but we are talking phones now NOT PDAs. Yes they are Uber phones but still phones. I want sleek, slick, and classy. Looks will matter in this war. Hardware will matter too and if MS can not face that and embrace it they will lose their war. OEMs I am telling you now Wireless Phones NEED wireless connections. Build in Bluetooth!!!! On top of that Style will Matter! Here is my last piece of advice. I will buy the first "Uber Phone" that is CDMA with a coller screen, built in Bluetooth, and that supports highspeed Data transmission.

Nokia has been on my ****e list for years after they stopped making CDMA phones, and made worse when they stopped making good handsets for the States.
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Button/Menu. 100% sure. That's how they make one handed operation possible: you don't need to have the device in one hand, and a stylus in the other. All is done with the keys.
 
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Old 02-19-2002, 04:52 PM
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Nokia has been on my ****e list for years after they stopped making CDMA phones, and made worse when they stopped making good handsets for the States.
Hey I think you might be interested in this then http://www.infosync.no/show.php?id=1450. They've released a new CDMA phone. It's hardly worth writing home about but it's better than nothing.
The US only has itself to blame for it's crappy range of crappy handsets, it either needs to standardize with the rest of the world or do a Japan and make sure that there are interesting options. I'm guessing that the former is already in the process of happening. I just hope that all the cell companies can agree on one standard and get some good roaming agreements happening.

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Old 02-19-2002, 05:01 PM
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Daniel you may be right about standardizing, but I doubt it will ever happen. I find it so blam dang doubtful that Verizon and Sprint PCS have any intention on completely rebuilding their networks to use GSM/GPRS. I do know that AT&T is switching from TDMA to GSM/GPRS so I guess TDMA is gone but CDMA is here for at least a very, very long time. And have you ever noticed that with the exception of onyl a few companies like TI OEMs do not exist in America for cell phones. We rely on out of country Manufacturers for our phones. It kinda bites.

PS. Thanks for the Infosync link I'll take a look.
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