Sorry It isn't my intent to start an anti-Christian Jihad on Easter. I just simply thought that some of us were being a little intolerant of a silly little phone ringing in church when you consider the bigger issues in life.
I would edit it, but many may think the statement was "bigger' than it is.
Then don't go to church if you are awaiting an organ. Besides, and don't take offense, this is just an opinion.. why would you really go to church if you're awaiting an organ? I really don't think it would make a difference.
These are just some examples, but there are others too. For instance, officers of strategic bomb wings who are not on ready-alert sometimes carry pagers to alert them to haul it back to base. Or what if your kid gets sick like what happened to Will Smith at the Oscars? Kid had a 103 degree temperature that could have been life-threatening. The point is, there are some real legitimate circumstances where a cell phone or pager is required. If people are setting up blockers on a whim, how does one of these people who needs the cell phone or pager know they are walking into a "dead" zone? Not everyone may be so considerate to put up a sign warning people. If a situation happens where someone doesn't get an important message, a lawsuit wouldn't be far behind.
In my opinion, too many pitfalls concerning this just because you don't want to be interupted or annoyed. You hope people have the sense to only have a phone or pager on if it's truely important and not have to force blocking on them. Besides, I wonder if blocking is even legal?
I know myself, as both a church-goer and a student, it's got to be one of the most disrespectful things for people to leave their phones on in the middle of either of these places. I have done it before, and felt like a complete moron. It's just a common sense thing - treat those around you with respect, and turn off your cell phone. Why do you think the makers of these devices gave them a vibrate mode? :wink:
Or what if your kid gets sick like what happened to Will Smith at the Oscars? Kid had a 103 degree temperature that could have been life-threatening.
Just to clarify here. I am not a doctor but I watch one on TV . Actually I have had kids and that ought to at least count toward a few years of med school. ...
A temperature of 103 in a child is not life threatening. In fact, my Children's pediatrician says not to worry until it reaches 105. Don' take that as the gospel truth. It is just what I have been told. Will and Jada were probably just tired or maybe Will actually did punch Ethan Hawke and they had to go. Hmmm.
Still, I say it is about the freedom of people to decide if they want to stay in touch. Why should the mistakes of the few limit the rights of the many. Maybe instead they should put a device in churches and theaters that amplifies the radio signal of the cell phones so that if somone leaves it on they will irradiate them, make them sterile and then they can't breed more inconsiderate boobs. Just kidding. Lighten up.
In most places, it's not - this is why the article is about a church in Spain. The blockers are illegal in the US, Canada, and I believe Europe as well (the article talks about it).
I think this is a pretty classic case of "My Rights". Some people believe their rights superseded the rights of others. Their right to get an important message is more important than the rights of 100 people around them to enjoy church, an opera, a movie, etc. That's the real issue here.
Some of you are fixating on the church issue, which is unfortunate - you're trying to turn it into a question of religion, when of course that's not what it's about at all. It really saddens me to see such persecution of faith and hidden agendas coming to the surface. If I knew that would happen, I wouldn't have posted on this. :cry:
Let's consider something more benign, like a movie theatre. If you're expecting an important phone call, should you be there in the first place? If you're a doctor on call, or a fighter pilot, should you be going to a movie? And if you are, wouldn't it be nice if your phone were in vibrate mode? I think the concept of having a "switcher" vs. a "jammer", something that forced devices into a silent/vibrate mode, is a far better solution. People can still stay in contact, but it doesn't disturb others around them. I know that it would make me uncomfortable if I went into a building and my phone was shut off without me knowing it - there's obviously a reason why these things are illegal in much of the world. :wink:
exactly, Jason! this issue is about rights and respect, not about religion. enough red herrings, people, let's get to the really quite simple point: you don't have a right to have a cell phone surgically attached and you don't have the right to disturb other people with either your ringing or your conversations. put it on vibrate and keep your conversations low volume. and oh yes, don't drive while talking. you're probably not the great driver you imagine yourself to be anyway, and being on the phone makes you an even worse one.
Or what if your kid gets sick like what happened to Will Smith at the Oscars? Kid had a 103 degree temperature that could have been life-threatening.
If it was me and my kid, I wouldn't have gone out in the first place.
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Originally Posted by DaleReeck
In my opinion, too many pitfalls concerning this just because you don't want to be interupted or annoyed.
This is the result of people not respecting other people's desire for enjoying an uninterrupted time. Having a cell phone go off in an area where silence is common, a beeping phone is simply rude and disrespectful.
I know myself, as both a church-goer and a student, it's got to be one of the most disrespectful things for people to leave their phones on in the middle of either of these places. I have done it before, and felt like a complete moron. It's just a common sense thing - treat those around you with respect, and turn off your cell phone. Why do you think the makers of these devices gave them a vibrate mode? :wink:
How about powering it off completely and using the mailbox for the time being?
Someone standing up in the middle of the service, running out or even taking the call on the way out is not much better than a beeping phone.
In most places, it's not - this is why the article is about a church in Spain. The blockers are illegal in the US, Canada, and I believe Europe as well (the article talks about it).
Ahem... Spain is part of Europe... ;-)
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
I think the concept of having a "switcher" vs. a "jammer", something that forced devices into a silent/vibrate mode, is a far better solution.
Yes. And one that could power phones off, for use in airplanes. On almost every flight that I'm on lately, some dumbhead's phone goes off even after the flight attendance has explicitly informed everyone to turn off all electronic devices, including freaking cell phones. During my last flight, one passenger needed to be reminded THREE times by the attendant to turn off his laptop because the plane has started approach. I'd go ahead and take it away from this type of person.
People are stupid, rude and apparently not even concerned about their own safety. I say a loud and clear YES to this type of external control.
. Actually I have had kids and that ought to at least count toward a few years of med school. 
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