07-05-2005, 12:44 AM
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Mac vs. Linux?
Which is in higher use? The Mac OS or Linux OS? While I was downloading the JDK from Sun, I read some info on the same page. It said that Sun produces the JRE for Linux, Windows, and Solaris. Then it said that other companies produce the JRE for other platforms such as the Mac OS. I was kind of surprised and would assume that the Mac OS is used more as a desktop OS than Linux.
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07-05-2005, 03:05 AM
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I think from a server environment perspective, Linux is used more. From a desktop environment perspective, Mac OS is used more. Comparing the two is very much an apples/oranges concept. As for the whole Java topic, Apple has its own Java release: http://developer.apple.com/java/index.html |
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07-05-2005, 04:03 AM
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For some reason that seems to make sense. I know there are quite a few people out there who is Linux as their main OS, but they are in reality very few. It is pretty simple, really. If you ask most people (non-techies) which kind of choices between computers do they have, they would probably say IBM and Mac...mostly no one knows about Linux.
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07-05-2005, 04:08 AM
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That, and also the fact that despite how "user-friendly" and "simple" some Linux redists are, it's still built around a very advanced platform which requires a lot of fiddling around to make it work the way you want it to. For the majority of computer users, either Windows or Mac OS would be the most suitable platform for a home and SB environment.
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07-05-2005, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Darius Wey
I think from a server environment perspective, Linux is used more. From a desktop environment perspective, Mac OS is used more.
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This is the key: Sun's real target market today is J2EE; that's where Java's big adoption is, and in that environment, Windows/Solaris/Linux are the popular platforms. Mac OS X is a latecomer to the scene, and as such Apple currently maintains the port.
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Originally Posted by Typhoon
I know there are quite a few people out there who is Linux as their main OS, but they are in reality very few.
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Don't confuse desktop and server adoption. Linux is hugely successful in the server market. Combine that with MySQL/PostgreSQL, Apache/PHP, or Java/Tomcat/JSP, and you've got the combinations for many small-to-medium-sized websites.
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07-05-2005, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Darius Wey
That, and also the fact that despite how "user-friendly" and "simple" some Linux redists are, it's still built around a very advanced platform which requires a lot of fiddling around to make it work the way you want it to. For the majority of computer users, either Windows or Mac OS would be the most suitable platform for a home and SB environment.
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So true. Has anyone tried Ubuntu? |
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07-06-2005, 01:24 AM
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So true. Has anyone tried Ubuntu?
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Nope, though I have heard some good words about that redist. A long time ago, I fiddled around with Mandrake. Then I gave Knoppix a spin. I'm now stuck on Fedora Core 4. While it still has room for improvement, it certainly is one of the nicer releases out there. |
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07-06-2005, 02:23 AM
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If I had the money, I'd get a Mac. Since they moved to a UNIX backend, I've just become very interested in them. But since I'm in debt up to my ears (from all the gadgets in my life no doubt), I use Linux when I don't have to use Windows on my 4+ year old system. (I use Fedora a little at work, mainly because at one time we thought we might have a client who was interested in using a Linux server. At home I've got Debian (sarge - will probably move to etch sometime soon) loaded. You have to love a distribution that names its releases after a cartoon movie. (OK, well, maybe you don't, but I do.))
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07-06-2005, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by applejosh
If I had the money, I'd get a Mac. Since they moved to a UNIX backend, I've just become very interested in them.
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Exactly why I'm seriously considering one. 
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(OK, well, maybe you don't, but I do.))
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I'm still running Debian woody on my server. Admittedly, FC4 is pretty darn nice.
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07-06-2005, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Darius Wey
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Originally Posted by Typhoon
So true. Has anyone tried Ubuntu?
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Nope, though I have heard some good words about that redist. A long time ago, I fiddled around with Mandrake. Then I gave Knoppix a spin. I'm now stuck on Fedora Core 4. While it still has room for improvement, it certainly is one of the nicer releases out there. |
Oh i see. Yea, the GUI of Ubuntu looks a lot like Fedora. But to me, it always stumps me...why hasn't Linux really become a useful desktop OS (for the average nontechie)? Or am I wrong here? Can I give Grandma a copy of Linux, and let her install and use it w/out my help? |
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