[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by Sven

OK, suffer me one more off-topic, but I have to respond to the assorted one-ups-manship (or is it one-downs-manship).

OK - you win. Happy? :P Although if Bev were to get in here...

Originally Posted by nosmohtac

I remember my first PC had 4KB of RAM, NO HD that I can remember, and programs were loaded in off of Cassette.

Hmmm. The first IBM PC 5150s came with a whopping 16KB of RAM, not 4KB. I remember upgrading that 16KB to 64KB on later mainboards by installing 36 (not 32, you needed parity for 4 banks!) chips. Took freaking forever.

And I think this thread is officially derailed. ops: Kati and/or Steve have license to twak me...

--janak

[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by Sven

OK, suffer me one more off-topic, but I have to respond to the assorted one-ups-manship (or is it one-downs-manship).

OK - you win. Happy? :P Although if Bev were to get in here...

Originally Posted by nosmohtac

I remember my first PC had 4KB of RAM, NO HD that I can remember, and programs were loaded in off of Cassette.

Hmmm. The first IBM PC 5150s came with a whopping 16KB of RAM, not 4KB. I remember upgrading that 16KB to 64KB on later mainboards by installing 36 (not 32, you needed parity for 4 banks!) chips. Took freaking forever.

And I think this thread is officially derailed. ops: Kati and/or Steve have license to twak me...

--janak

[dh]

For some reason, I only just found this thread. I've been thinking of replacing the OS on my iMac with Linux and have just downloaded Yellow Dog Linux, which seems to be the most popular one at the moment.

The installation is currently in progress and I'm hoping that the iMac will boot OK when it's done.

If this works out OK, I'd seriously consider getting a PowerBook (maybe a refurbished one) and doing the same thing. I love the Mac hardware but am not interested in their OS.

Oh, to get back on the unofficial topic, my first computer was an Atari ST. With it's GEM GUI it was great for it's time.

[dean_shan]

I tried YDL on my PowerBook. It was nice but had no drivers for the new 802.11g card. I took it off mine and tried it out on an old iBook and worked fine with the standard 802.11b card. They might have drivers for the new cards now but I havn't checked.

[Zack Mahdavi]

Originally Posted by dean_shan

I tried YDL on my PowerBook. It was nice but had no drivers for the new 802.11g card. I took it off mine and tried it out on an old iBook and worked fine with the standard 802.11b card. They might have drivers for the new cards now but I havn't checked.

No drivers yet for the 802.11g Airport Extreme cards. The problem is that these cards use a Broadcom chipset, and Broadcom generally doesn't like to make Linux drivers or even release enough information for Linux developers to make their own drivers. So I think we'll be waiting a while for the Airport Extreme linux drivers.

I have Yellow Dog installed on my 12" Powerbook, and I love it. It detected everything except for the Airport Extreme card on startup. I know it's possible to get bluetooth to work as well, but I haven't tried to configure it. The only think I don't like about Yellow Dog on newer Apple laptops is that for some reason, their power management daemon won't recognize when you close the lid. Thus, the computer won't go to sleep.

Yellow Dog Linux was last updated in October of 2003. I'm hoping that Yellow Dog will introduce a new version with Kernel 2.6 and KDE 3.2.

[Pony99CA]

Originally Posted by Sven

OK, suffer me one more off-topic, but I have to respond to the assorted one-ups-manship (or is it one-downs-manship). My initial computing experience was on a teletype, keyboard in, yellow roll paper output, acoustic coupled modem to a timeshare downtown. We did have a paper tape reader and cutter so we could save our work This was High School. Did run calculations with more accuracy than the old slide rule, though it was slower. :lol:

Well, I thought we were discussing computers we owned, not just used. ;-) But I also used a similar setup in high school (senior year, the only grade that could use the computer, I believe). We had a teletype with paper tape system connected to an IBM mainframe running VM/CMS at the Oakland County Board of Education (I think).

College was actually a step down from that -- my freshman computer science class used punch cards. Pfeh! After a few programs, I asked my instructor if I could use the DECWriters (like a teletype, but dot matrix). It was like heaven. :lol:

When I got my Apple II+, I went back to my high school and asked if I could get a log-in to the school district's mainframe to try out my modem. The teacher was kind enough to let me, so I had some fun playing Star Trek. :-D

Steve

[dean_shan]

Originally Posted by Zack Mahdavi

Broadcom generally doesn't like to make Linux drivers or even release enough information for Linux developers to make their own drivers. So I think we'll be waiting a while for the Airport Extreme linux drivers.

Evil :evil:

Originally Posted by Zack Mahdavi

I have Yellow Dog installed on my 12" Powerbook, and I love it. It detected everything except for the Airport Extreme card on startup. I know it's possible to get bluetooth to work as well, but I haven't tried to configure it. The only think I don't like about Yellow Dog on newer Apple laptops is that for some reason, their power management daemon won't recognize when you close the lid. Thus, the computer won't go to sleep.

Yeah that's what happened to me. I won't switch because I love WiFi to much.

[dh]

OK, I'm in business. The iMac that had been collecting dust is now a super Linux machine. All I need to do now is get it online.

Think I'll get a Linksys Ethernet Bridge rather than the overpriced Apple Airport Card.

Anyone had any success using the Linksys with Linux by any chance?