Just now? Bell Canada has had this for a long time and they don't offer another higher priced plan where you can get it opened.
Best solution is to A) open SMTP on another port. I use 6000 on my server. And if that's not possible then B) move to a smaller DSL company. They tend to let you run wild and free.
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I can't remember the last time I could use SMTP on Cox. I have to use their webmail to send email. Recieve via POP, send via web. What a pain in the ass... :frusty:
Microsoft need to include all the tools to keep this problem away...
No, I think the ISPs need to provide them and mandate that their customers use them and keep their machines clean. I don't know enough about the systems to know how they could enforce it, but I'm sure they could block access to users who haven't installed and used their digital disinfectants.
If ISP block the SMTP port, how are we supposed to send any email? I have my own hosting and fortunately my hosting company does not block the port (yet), but I have seen many hostings who do not allow SMTP access and advise customers to use ISP's smtp instead. Now ISP starts to block the port, where should we go? As much as webmail is nice and convenient, I very like to store all my correspondence locally, too.
Dial up providers I used to use while travelling did this same thing. So have other cable providers I've used. I hated it, since I've been using my own domain and smtp server (hosted at a local ISP) for some time.
Unfortunately, there's not much you can do about it. I know if my current ISP were to take up this practice and not make an exception I'd raise holy h*ll. Since I work for the company, I'd hope I could get an exception made, but I am but a small cog in a great machine. . .
And really, for ISP's who advertise unlimited access, isn't this really 'limiting' your access to the internet? I wonder if this is a reason (not in the company's eyes, but if you wanted to really push it) to cancel a contract with the service provider early?
Most ISP's have bene blocking port 25 to the outside for a while. This is to try to stem of the spam coming from open relays taht are accidently on their network. Even with Linux, setting up a open relay available to spammers is pretty easy and this is the main reason for blocking the port to the outside. With in your ISP, you probably still use port 25 for e-mail. IN any case, even your work should not allow connections to port 25 from the outside and same goes for your ISP. Blocking this port to and from outside their network makes alot of sense. Too many GEEKS who THINK they can run thier own mail server end up accidently setting up open relays. Sendmail is not for the faint of heart. I am a geek and I would rather use some other MTA.
And really, for ISP's who advertise unlimited access, isn't this really 'limiting' your access to the internet? I wonder if this is a reason (not in the company's eyes, but if you wanted to really push it) to cancel a contract with the service provider early?
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No. Open port 25 relays are a security risk for everyone. Blocking use of port 25 to anything but your own mail servers is a good security practice. If you need universally available e-mail, web mail is by far more easy to do securely.
Re: ISPs Blocking Port 25 To Curb Spam Hurts The Honest Guy
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
So now I have an $80/month business account, which does open port 25, instead of a $47/month home account. :bad-words: Totally insane. All because of some knee-jerk reaction to a valid problem solved with wrong-headed thinking, and as far as computing goes, that is the most evil thing that can happen.
Why don't you just create a little batch file to switch between two host files, one with ip of your ISP SMTP server for every other smtp server you need., one without (or no host file at all!!)
On you PocketPC you could use PocketHost to enable/disable the "re-routing" :-)
Or even better export the both registry keys with and without the entries, and in a few taps you can import the one you need?
And when that works, let me know I will give you my paypal account, you can send me the extra 33$ you save each month, minus some fees since you'll have to loose time to switch from one server to another 8)
Re: ISPs Blocking Port 25 To Curb Spam Hurts The Honest Guy
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Originally Posted by butch
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
So now I have an $80/month business account, which does open port 25, instead of a $47/month home account. :bad-words: Totally insane. All because of some knee-jerk reaction to a valid problem solved with wrong-headed thinking, and as far as computing goes, that is the most evil thing that can happen.
Why don't you just create a little batch file to switch between two host files, one with ip of your ISP SMTP server for every other smtp server you need., one without (or no host file at all!!)
Now that is the first idea I've heard that makes a bit of sense in my situation.
Re: ISPs Blocking Port 25 To Curb Spam Hurts The Honest Guy
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
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Originally Posted by butch
Why don't you just create a little batch file to switch between two host files, one with ip of your ISP SMTP server for every other smtp server you need., one without (or no host file at all!!)
Now that is the first idea I've heard that makes a bit of sense in my situation.
Sigh... never mind. All the external SMTP servers I use require authentication, which means I'd have to also change userIDs and passwords.
Port 25 blokcing is a good thing
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