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Old 07-11-2003, 05:03 AM
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I thought Logitech also released a similar camera last year.

At the time I was looking, I ended up with the Casio E2. The late is a great camera, and very durable. But in the end, the only great camera is the one you have with you when you want it!

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Old 07-11-2003, 05:09 AM
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CMOS sensors were historically inferior to CCD's but the reverse is now happening with high-end (Canon 11MP, Kodak 14MP, etc) pro digital switching to new generation CMOS designs. CMOS still requires very sophisticated software processing for those uses. CCD generally is still superior for consumer models at this stage of evolution. Maybe the Fuji's will be a breakthrough.
 
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Old 07-11-2003, 07:39 AM
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^ You beat me to it @ CMOS
 
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Old 07-11-2003, 08:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bmhome1
CMOS sensors were historically inferior to CCD's but the reverse is now happening with high-end (Canon 11MP, Kodak 14MP, etc) pro digital switching to new generation CMOS designs. CMOS still requires very sophisticated software processing for those uses. CCD generally is still superior for consumer models at this stage of evolution. Maybe the Fuji's will be a breakthrough.
And Pop Photo a couple of months ago said that very Kodak 14MP CMOS provided better images than film (at ISO 100, as I recall - but wow! :jawdrop: ) - first time they'd said that about digital.
 
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Old 07-11-2003, 09:04 AM
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I bought the Logitech camera based on the SMAL technology, and ended up returning it. It took awful pictures. The light sensitivity was poor (everything was dark, or else so bright it looked like I'd taken pictures in heaven), and the shots were all fuzzy-looking.

I've since forked over the extra money for the Exilm, and I'm glad. It's been on a couple of trips with me, and not only is it just as portable, it consistently takes excellent pictures. Any flaws have to do with my lack of skill as a photographer.

Don't get suckered. In this case, cheap is cheap - only not cheap enough. You can get a £20 keychain camera that takes pictures just as well as the SMIL kind if that's what you're after. If you want something usable, save up for the Exilm.
 
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Old 07-11-2003, 01:19 PM
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I've got the Logitech also, and it is borderline false advertising. While it says 1.3 MP, in the fine print, it says "Interpolated from VGA (640x480) resolution". The pictures are slightly better than the SiPix I had previously, but the download software works much better and the built in battery lasts longer. SiPix uses a AA, but if you leave it in the camera, it is dead in a week. If you remove the battery, you lose your pics. If I don't use the camera, there is very little power loss.

I carry this camera more for emergency use (when I really need a picture of something, but don't have my Canon S30).

I almost returned it when I say the picture quality, but I got mine from Gateway through a deal I found on FatWallet, and only paid $29. For that price, it was OK.
 
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Old 07-11-2003, 02:29 PM
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AFAIK the only decent ultracompact digital camera under $200 is the Sony DSC-U20 (now the DSC-U30). That takes 2MP photos and is about half the height of a normal camera, and volume-wise is even smaller than the Minolta Dimage; however, it certainly is thicker than a credit card.

Every other cheap mini digicam that i've looked at i have heard AWFUL things about (particularly the Logictech and Creative CardCams), and I'm not going to spend over $200 on a compact camera that i really mostly have with for snapshots. This Fuji sounds like it may be the thing for me, if it takes halfway decent shots (since Dell, after a month of hemming and hawing, decided they were out of stock on the DSC-U20 and cancelled my order from early June as of yesterday :evil
 
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Old 07-11-2003, 06:06 PM
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I would wait until the reviews of the camera's picture quality come out before buying. It sounds like they are using inferior capture hardware and therefore is a dubious buy...
 
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Old 07-11-2003, 07:05 PM
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didn't logitech also come out with some credit card sized digicam? never did hear too much about it.

also, I think the Pentax Optio S is even thinner than the Casio Exilim. same lens.
 
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Old 07-11-2003, 07:37 PM
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That is the one I was talking about in my posts above.




Logitech Pocket Digital

The feature that I really like about it is the way it slides closed to protect the lens. That was my biggest beef with the SiPix, since the lens was easily scratched.
 
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