[heyday]

If you have a problem gaining weight you bettery worry about sugar.

More adults have type 2 diabetes and don't know about it then ever before. It really is a problem right now.

Just my 2 cents.


Heyday

[heyday]

If you have a problem gaining weight you bettery worry about sugar.

More adults have type 2 diabetes and don't know about it then ever before. It really is a problem right now.

Just my 2 cents.


Heyday

[innersky]

I knew Coke Light was evil! :twisted:
(In Europe they may not call it Diet Coke for obvious reasons)

Well, maybe the same thing goes for cell phones causing cancer. Nobody seems to be able to confirm this, and it's also a billion dollar industry.

[Hawkeyes]

Originally Posted by cpoole

A typical can/bottle of soft drink can contain over 200 calories. One bottle per day is the same as 20 pounds of weight per year (200 * 365 / 3500)

That's assuming that you are hitting your daily caloric need on the nose every day, and that knocking off that one soda wil put you in a calorie defecit. Even then, it likely won't result in a 20 pound weight loss. when in a caloric defecit, the body turns to muscle for food first. I don't know the calorie density of muscle, but whatever spare you have is going first. Then we turn to fat for fuel.

That's an annoying way for me to say I hate these types of simplified calculations that have become so wide spread. I chew a pack of gum a day, at 5 calories per piece of gum, 14 sticks - that's 70 calories pe day! Why, if I stop chewing gum I'll lose over 7 lbs this year!

Slightly off topic....

[Hawkeyes]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

So? Why is sugar bad? Why is something natural bad, and something created in a lab better?

According to the site linked in the article:

Gradually reduce or eliminate:
White Sugar
Brown Sugar -- Brown sugar is usually white sugar mixed
with molasses or sprayed with caramel coloring.
Raw Sugar -- Raw sugar is often white sugar with coloring.
Fructose -- Betware the "natural" products with fructose.
It's not much better than white sugar (IMO).


So if we are taking their word on the rest of the sweeteners, we better buy into this as well. The only good "Sugar" is:

Sucanat -- Whole cane sugar with water removed. You can
get sucanat products mail order from Purity Foods
(800/997-7358). Nutra Cane (603/672-2801)
distributes sucanat in the US. Also, a company called
Florida Crystals seels this product. Still sugar as
far as diabetics are concered, but it contains a small
amount vitmins and minerals which helps reduce some of
the negative effects found in long term use of white sugar.

[sesummers]

Before you guys get too uptight about the nutrisweet, consider the fact that both diet AND regular softdrinks contain hundreds of times more Di-Hydrogen Monoxide than they do of any other chemicals. DHMO is a known killer- thousands of people die every year from various forms of exposure to it. Go visit http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html for the straight story- it's pretty scary.

What's worse is the long term, more subtle effects. I've read that fully HALF of the children who have long term DHMO exposure score below average on standardized intelligence tests. It's a serious crisis, and the fact that most people have NEVER EVEN HEARD of DHMO proves beyond any uncertainty that their must be a cover-up- most likely by the right wing conservatives in control of most of our government who are protecting their big business constituents who need the stuff in order to produce their products so they can make obscene profits.

I tell you, things are really falling apart. It's time we returned to the good old days- the dark ages.

[cpoole]

I think that everyone would agree that sugar is not a bad product. It is simply a concentrated source of calories.

Since aspartame has been in use since 1981, I guess we should see the 20 year tumors showing up pretty soon.

I am just suprised how we can focus on a single product such as aspartame and worry that it is bad. It has been tested and tested and tested. Obesity is a real problem today. Lots of people die due to the complications and effects of obesity. If aspartame can be used to help reduce this problem, then lets use it.

If you are not dealing with a weight problem, then go ahead and drink Coke with sugar. These are really empty calories since you did not get them from a food source that had any other nutritional value. Frankly, I tend to worry about the the effect of the other chemicals in Coke rather than the sweetner.

[Hawkeyes]

Originally Posted by cpoole

I think that everyone would agree that sugar is not a bad product. It is simply a concentrated source of calories.

Since aspartame has been in use since 1981, I guess we should see the 20 year tumors showing up pretty soon.

I am just suprised how we can focus on a single product such as aspartame and worry that it is bad. It has been tested and tested and tested. Obesity is a real problem today. Lots of people die due to the complications and effects of obesity. If aspartame can be used to help reduce this problem, then lets use it.

If you are not dealing with a weight problem, then go ahead and drink Coke with sugar. These are really empty calories since you did not get them from a food source that had any other nutritional value. Frankly, I tend to worry about the the effect of the other chemicals in Coke rather than the sweetner.

Wait a minute, that sounds like reason and logic! You can't do that! There has to be a bullet for the masses to attached to. Come on man, that's not sexy, it just doesn't sell!

[mwab]

Wow 8O I just popped the top of a diet pepsi before this surfing section and saw this story... freaky :?

[cpoole]

Originally Posted by Hawkeyes

That's assuming that you are hitting your daily caloric need on the nose every day, and that knocking off that one soda wil put you in a calorie defecit. Even then, it likely won't result in a 20 pound weight loss. when in a caloric defecit, the body turns to muscle for food first. I don't know the calorie density of muscle, but whatever spare you have is going first. Then we turn to fat for fuel.

That's an annoying way for me to say I hate these types of simplified calculations that have become so wide spread. I chew a pack of gum a day, at 5 calories per piece of gum, 14 sticks - that's 70 calories pe day! Why, if I stop chewing gum I'll lose over 7 lbs this year!

Slightly off topic....

I am sorry if I gave you the impression that you could simply loose all those pounds by switching to low cal sweetners. The simple fact is that people gain weight by exceeded their daily caloric need... If you are slowly gaining weight and you just need that coke every day, switching one or more foods to a low calory source will most likely help control the weight gain.

Indeed the best method to loose weight is a sensible diet and exercise. Over the past 5 months, I have lost 37 pounds. This was done by making good food choices, reducing calories and fat intake, burning about 600 calories of exercise a day and making sure that I get enough protein so that the weight loss is focused on the fat rather than the muscle mass.

[Brad Adrian]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

Why is something natural bad...?

Duuuuuude. I used that argument with my parents YEARS ago [albeit in a different context], and it didn't work then, either.