07-30-2002, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by heliod
...all the people signing the papers you see in these statements are connected to the sugar lobby.
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That could be, but we know that natural suger won't kill us.  |
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07-30-2002, 08:02 PM
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This is quite interesting...it's not "scientific" Charles, but give it a read:
http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/upi.htm
"The NutraSweet Co. also has paid up to $3 million a year for a 100- person public relations effort by the Chicago offices of Burson, Marsteller, a former employee of the New York PR firm said. The employee said Burson Marsteller has hired numerous scientists and physicians, often at $1,000 a day, to defend the sweetener in media interviews and other public forums. Burson Marsteller declines to discuss such matters."
You do NOT have a team that large and a budget that big for an INGREDIANT unless you know you have to defend it. Remember, it's not like these PR people are out there promothing the actual products using it.
The bottom line for me is that there are some things that mankind really screws up when they try to emulate nature - I think aspartame is one of them.
I turned this article series into an MS Reader file - download it and give it a read. |
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07-30-2002, 08:02 PM
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Sorry to burst everyones bubles here but I can't beleive that everyone is falling for the "Aspertame" is bad for you mythology.
The truth is that all the facts they claim to say in the site are made up. If you tried to contact the source you will find that it is not true.
Doesn't everyone remember the "Aspertame causes MS" a few years ago? It even made the front page of CNN before it was pulled.
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07-30-2002, 08:04 PM
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07-30-2002, 08:06 PM
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Re: Its all about choices
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Originally Posted by cpoole
A typical can/bottle of soft drink can contain over 200 calories. One bottle per day is the same as 20 pounds of weight per year (200 * 365 / 3500). Many people drink more than one bottle per day... Most products consumed today will have a negative effect on some part of the population... cafine, nuts, tree fruits, salt, peanuts, milk and MSG are just a few. If this product does not agree with you, do not use it.
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I can't imagine having a can of pop (or more) every single day - that's the problem, not the fact that one can of pop has a lot of calories. I'd rather be a few pounds overweight than get a tumour from what I'm drinking. Grab a glass of water, juice, lemonade, iced tea...it's not like there aren't options.
As to your second point, it doesn't make sense: I have a milk intolerance, but I KNOW that I have it, and the dairy farmers don't try to disprove that some people can't digest milk products.
This is just like tobacco, and in 20 years we'll look back and realize how naive we were to trust the pimps selling their poison...mark my words. |
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07-30-2002, 08:10 PM
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Well if you want to start talking about what is bad to drink...
Did you know that Juice like lemonade, orange juice, etc.... can actualy have MORE sugar than pop!
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07-30-2002, 08:11 PM
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Re: step away from the keyboard...
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Originally Posted by pt
that said, stop reading this, put down the super sized fries and big gulp and go outside ;-]
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Hehe, this coming from a guy who is afraid of sunlight in his own right!  |
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07-30-2002, 08:14 PM
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Re: Ingredients, etc.
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Originally Posted by Decius
You know what scares the hell out of me more than any artificial sweetner? "Meat" and "cheese" products that don't require refrigeration and have lists of ingredients longer than most EULAs. Read the back of a beef jerky package sometime. When something in your food contains an ingredient with thirty-seven letters, a hyphen, and then seventeen more letters, be afraid... be very afraid.
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Hahahhaha, I was in a gas station convenience store one time and saw beef jerky titled under the brand name "Damn Good Beef Jerky." The ingredients included "beef tongue" and "assorted cow parts". Does the body good I guess :twisted: |
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07-30-2002, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by heyday
Sorry to burst everyones bubles here but I can't beleive that everyone is falling for the "Aspertame" is bad for you mythology.
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The truth is, neither you nor I know for a fact whether or not it's harmful. I'm not a scientist, I haven't done the tests myself. Who do you trust?
Regardless of whether or not there's any scientific evidence, the sheer lobbying efforts of the NutraSweet people seems deeply suspicious to me. Powerful lobbies and lawyers are obscuring any truth there is to be had. Just like the cigarette issue, it will take a few decades before we know anything for certain. Same deal with MSG - it's everywhere, but it's so hard to find the truth about it. Yet when I have a food product prepared with MSG, I get quite sick. Similar food, prepared without MSG, and I'm fine. Go figure... :!:
For me at least, I don't need to drink diet pop or chew aspartame gum - better to be safe than sorry. The consequences of avoiding aspartame as much as possible as minimal. The consequences of sucking down four Diet Coke's a day and finding out ten years later that aspartame gave you cancer? Very high indeed. |
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07-30-2002, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by heyday
Did you know that Juice like lemonade, orange juice, etc.... can actualy have MORE sugar than pop!
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So? Why is sugar bad? Why is something natural bad, and something created in a lab better? |
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