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Old 05-25-2007, 03:34 AM
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The keys should be user configurable. Then we could have it how we want it. What a concept! :roll:
Why isn't it user-configurable? Because we programmers would get killed for writing "bloated" code! :roll: For example, the left button is now simply hard-wired to fire the delete function. Pretty simple and straight-forward. Now, you want it configurable? No problem, now you just made it alot more complex by adding a switch statement when the button is pushed because now we need to create an extra event to look in the registry and find out what you customized the button to do, then based on the command you customized it to do, handle that event. How many customized commands are we talking here? Are you allowed to create your own customized commands? You can't have the cake and eat it too! :evil:

For crying out loud, are people making a mountain from a mole hill for this? I was GLAD the one-step delete was implemented. Not to mention a much easier method to empty the deleted folder! I was wondering who designed the original UI where it took 2 steps to delete and a gazillion steps to empty the deleted folder. The person who designed that in WM5 and older should have been fired. The WM6 interface is much more useful, IMHO.
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Old 05-25-2007, 03:38 AM
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Sorry but I don't see how this automatically bloats the code.

Those two softkeys should be customizable simply because if you asked 20 people, they use their phones 20 different ways.

The idea that this would involve bloating code is ludicrous.
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:16 AM
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I would like to give Microsoft some credit. When you are viewing the mail message the left key defaults to Reply and when in the list view it is Delete. I think they put some thought. If I open an email and while reading I feel like responding, I can hit the left key. Otherwise in the mail listing, I am always during purge. I never reply by just the message title. I reply to the email while viewing the item.

Plus I love this feature, my Hotmail account gets only spam, this helps me purge it.
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:34 AM
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The idea that this would involve bloating code is ludicrous.
I suppose writing a code module for a control panel-like applet to customize your buttons would not qualify as bloated code? That's alot of lines of code and alot of extra paths for a program to take. Remember, this is just for customizing ONE button... DELETE!
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:34 AM
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I agree that keys could be configurable, but we have to think about the influence that would have on the OS footprint and performance. It is not always easy to implement the same concepts of the computer on a phone these days. Maybe in the future.

To the point of the question, if I need to account the ratio of deleting messages to creating new messages, in my case it would be around 8:1 for deleting messages. So at least in my case, MS has caught exactly the right function to put in the softkey, and I am happy they did the change.

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Old 05-25-2007, 06:50 AM
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The keys should be user configurable. Then we could have it how we want it. What a concept! :roll:
QFT! But I do like having the delete softkey in messaging.
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:07 AM
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Although I tend to use the Delete function more than the New function, I don't see the advantage. It still take two keypresses to delete.
You can change the setting to immediately delete rather than prompt in WM6 on the Dash...
Ah, thanks. That does make a difference.
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:21 PM
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Nutzareus...do you work for MS? As your first instict is NOT to listen to the end user?

Configuring the key is a great idea! But if I were to personalize it...I'd have it mapped to DELETE!!!!
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Old 05-26-2007, 07:18 PM
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Given the fact that WM6 now allows me to choose to keep my messages on the server after retrieving them, I like the new delete key. It took a day or two to get used to it, but now I am quite happy with it. Before, in WM5, I never deleted anything because it may be something I wanted to keep for when I got home or to the office and if I delted it by accident, bye bye on the server.
 
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:03 PM
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For someone who uses this for his work account (Exchange server), taking away the 1-click "New" button is a horrible decision. I never get spam on my work account, so I rarely do mass-deletes. I do, however, send a lot of emails from my Smartphone. This is just one more step to go through... It really should be configurable, since it represents a pretty big change for how the inbox works. Nice job, yet again, MS.
 
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