[juni]

VGA has twice the resolution, which this screenshot clearly demonstrates:



The only negative thing I can say about VGA is that the actual device is so big I can't really carry it around constantly, so I use a small smartphone for phone use and the hx4700 for sofa web-browsing and e-book reading.

[juni]

VGA has twice the resolution, which this screenshot clearly demonstrates:



The only negative thing I can say about VGA is that the actual device is so big I can't really carry it around constantly, so I use a small smartphone for phone use and the hx4700 for sofa web-browsing and e-book reading.

[DaveStall]

That is a great screen shot Juni.

This is not meant to be a negative, but to me it looks like you have pretty much exactly the same information displayed on both screens. It it just that the VGA screen is rendered with more pixels and thus more pleasing to the eye?

You mention that you use your VGA device to read ebooks. Do you use the same font size that you would use with a QVGA device? I am guessing that even at the same font size, things probably look better on a VGA screen. This has been my biggest question in regards to VGA vs. QVGA. My main use by far for my 2210 is reading ebooks. I have always wondered what benefit I might gain by moving to a VGA device. I never use the smallest font size even on my QVGA device, so displaying more text on the screen (as previous screen shots have shown) isn't really what I am looking for.

Dave

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by juni

The only negative thing I can say about VGA is that the actual device is so big I can't really carry it around constantly...

***BING***

That's the key point that some people in this thread, whom I can only describe as VGA bigots (really, there's a fair bit of rudeness happening), seem to be missing.

All things being equal, would ANYONE not want VGA on their device? No.

But all things are NOT equal - VGA devices, for a variety of reasons, have tended to be bigger and slower (graphically). Some people, and I could myself as one of them, are not willing to make the sacrifices necessary to get VGA. Some people are - and that's cool - but it's not fair for people who only want VGA devices to disparage and attack those that have other, more important factors to consider when picking a device (for me it's having a QWERTY keyboard and small size).

[netboy]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

more important factors to consider when picking a device (for me it's having a QWERTY keyboard and small size).

HELLOOOOOOOOOO?
VGA pdaphone IS the same size as QVGA pdaphone! Eten x800, Eten M800, Imate 6150, Imate 8150, and upcoming Imate 9502 and Sony X1!

[juni]

This is not meant to be a negative, but to me it looks like you have pretty much exactly the same information displayed on both screens. It it just that the VGA screen is rendered with more pixels and thus more pleasing to the eye?

Well, if a VGA icon has 52x52 pixels and a QVGA half that (26x26) then the VGA one will have twice the detail (which doesn't necessarily mean the actual screen size is much bigger) and look much sharper and more detailed. To me QVGA looks "grainier" somehow.

I don't use the smallest font for e-book reading, but I've used many QVGA devices in the past too and if I compare the hx4700 to those then there is a lot less strain on the eye when reading.

The actual device size is a big negative factor. If I wanted to use a VGA device as phone I would probably have to get a dreaded "man-bag" and use a bluetooth headset for actual calls.

[Nurhisham Hussein]

Originally Posted by juni

To me QVGA looks "grainier" somehow.

The word you're looking for Juni, is pixelated

Originally Posted by juni

The actual device size is a big negative factor. If I wanted to use a VGA device as phone I would probably have to get a dreaded "man-bag" and use a bluetooth headset for actual calls.

I've got an Advantage, and I ended up getting a belt pouch for it. Funny thing is, since I replaced my Loox 720 and SE k800i with it, I ended up carrying a lighter load than I did before. The BT headset though is obligatory.

[Menneisyys]

Guys and gals, I’ve just posted a HUGE roundup & quick review of i-mate’s all four new devices to http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...c.php?p=450156

[davea0511]

Originally Posted by shoey5

Why would there have to be any discussion on this, high resolution will always result in a sharper display capable of displaying more relestate.

The bigger question should be why are companies like HTC still releasing their new flagship models with QVGA displays!

Actually, I think the bigger question is why don't PPC manufacturers stretch screens to device edges so VGA can be more useful. I agree with those that say that that on 2.8" and smaller screens VGA has diminishing returns unless you have incredible eyesight, but most of these devices could be stretched to 3.5" screens without increasing device size if the manufacturers wanted to.

As a community we need to engage on a "no margins" campaign: "No margins between the screen and device edges". We need to send a message to manufacturers that if they don't make optimal use of the device surface then we won't buy them. I pledge to that cause. I invite everyone else to do the same.

[netboy]

Originally Posted by davea0511

Actually, I think the bigger question is why don't PPC manufacturers stretch screens to device edges so VGA can be more useful. I agree with those that say that that on 2.8" and smaller screens VGA has diminishing returns unless you have incredible eyesight, but most of these devices could be stretched to 3.5" screens without increasing device size if the manufacturers wanted to.

what i dont understand is iphone is the same size as other pdaphones! but iphone got 3.5" screen while pdaphone that size only got 2.8" screen!

[wseto]

Originally Posted by netboy

what i dont understand is iphone is the same size as other pdaphones! but iphone got 3.5" screen while pdaphone that size only got 2.8" screen!

The iPhone uses the external glass surface as a structural member for the case of the phone whereas most, if not all of the previous WM phones, the display's glass screen needed a sturdy frame around it to keep it from flexing and cracking. So that limited the size of the screen and required reasonably large borders on the phone.
Apple's "under" the glass touch detection also helps make the screen more robust as well and allows the completely flat surface for the front face.

Unless Apple's got those things patented, we'll probably see more large screen/small bezel phones appearing on the market soon.