It probably won't need resetting as often as the wobbly Wondows Mobile o/s so, on an always-on device that's a big plus point!
Oh? Not if my mom's TX is any indication; even worse, the TX reboots by itself, frequently, when using WiFi and/or Blazer. I haven't tried the ROM locking techniques yet that someone on our boards suggested, but out of the box Garnet is no longer a stable platform based on what I've read and experienced. WM5 has actually been pretty stable for me, lame memory configuration on the Treo 700w aside.
Janak, I fail to see why not spending $5,000 to an Indian programmer to *update* the palm wifi driver for the sd card is too much of an R&D. They simply don't want their PalmOS treos to support Wifi, and this is the carriers speaking, not Palm.
I didn't say it cost too much or that it was smart; I agree it's pretty stupid.
My point is this, though: I don't see your argument when the carriers are carrying WiFi-capable Treos as well. If that was truly the case, why would Palm write the driver for Windows Mobile and support it? In addition, all of the four major US carriers also sell HTC Windows Mobile devices with WiFi built in. It doesn't make any sense that the carriers are demanding no-WiFi devices, and certainly not anymore.
Oh, the other rumor I heard a few years ago is that Garnet isn't so good at handling two simultaneous data connections (e.g., both cellular and WiFi). No clue how that true is.
For Internet browsing I agree. For email, not so much. Tick the font size in WM5 down one notch, and it's actually quite useable.
I actually find it more irritating with email - I use FlexMail, and the preview pane is nearly unusable on the Treo even at a small font size.
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Well, this is not specific to the Hermes. Or are you saying there is CDMA 3G but not GSM 3G?
That's right - Cingular hasn't lit up 3G service in Minneapolis (or many other places) yet. I can get 3G on either Sprint or Verizon though and it's great!
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Yup, agreed, but a front-mounted thumbboard usually necessitates the square form factor.
That's what intrigues me about the Dash - of course I may not like the extra bulk when it gets right down to it, and the lack of 3G kills it. However, having used a 700P with a 360 x 360 resolution screen, I really think it would be quite easy to fit a 320 x 240 landscape screen in the same space the current one uses - the device could possibly be even shorter.
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There's also the Q...
I've tried the Smartphone OS previously (2125) and find it a little too limited for my likes.
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I think any such revamp will be medium- to long-term, if it ever happens. Palm's famous, as we all know, for moving relatively slowly.
No kidding - just wish they would realize how much more dominant they could be if they just were quicker to innovate.
Meh I wasn't too impressed with the 750v. I've got 2 on test for a month from vodafone. Used it over the weekend in place of my Hermes.
I didn't like the battery life, the screen was "bouncy", the volume to low (even when turned up high), the buttons on the side didn't have any visual icons as to what they did (yes I know 2 of them are volume, but the other one you'd press and after a delay windows media player would pop up. talk about random!). There is no wi-fi built in, and to me the keyboard is too small. Oh and I also didn't like the fact that it doesn't charge via USB (has its own non-standard charger)
I've given the other one to a user at work to try. He says he loves it (the same person that when using a 9100 claimed he got "terrible headaches"). Personally I think it has more to do with Palm being a client of ours...
The bluetooth stack seems newer on this than the Hermes though, as my Parrot kit picked it up fine and even displayed the signal strength and the battery life left. I also liked the SMS app - made a text message conversation look like an instant message.
You're right though, it does feel nice in the hands.
Meh I wasn't too impressed with the 750v. I've got 2 on test for a month from vodafone. Used it over the weekend in place of my Hermes.
Well, the Treos are relatively weak data devices compared to the Hermes. My perception is that the Treos are good if you primarily need phone operation but still want Pocket PC. Its big value proposition is that you can turn it on and dial anyone easily with one hand.
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I didn't like the battery life, the screen was "bouncy", the volume to low (even when turned up high), the buttons on the side didn't have any visual icons as to what they did (yes I know 2 of them are volume, but the other one you'd press and after a delay windows media player would pop up. talk about random!).
I wonder if the bounciness of the screen may disappear after some time. I can't remember if my 700w was bouncy. After applying a screen protector, I certainly don't notice any bounciness. And as for the launch button on the side, it can be remapped in Control Panel. Finally, interesting comment about the volume -- the 700w has pretty good volume by my standards, but I wasn't able to test the 750v as a phone.
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Oh and I also didn't like the fact that it doesn't charge via USB (has its own non-standard charger)
You can get a 3rd-party sync-and-charge cable that does charge over USB. Works great with my Treo.
It probably won't need resetting as often as the wobbly Wondows Mobile o/s so, on an always-on device that's a big plus point!
This is a big Myth. I have a Treo 700P that is much less stable than any of the last generation WM devices. It frequently resets for no apparent reason.
AND don't even get me started on the LifeDrive, sitting gathering dust on my desk. Very slow and unstable. So much so that I refuse to resell it as I don't want the purchaser to hold me liable for selling a defective device.
I actually find it more irritating with email - I use FlexMail, and the preview pane is nearly unusable on the Treo even at a small font size.
Ah, right, I was thinking of Inbox.
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That's what intrigues me about the Dash - of course I may not like the extra bulk when it gets right down to it, and the lack of 3G kills it. However, having used a 700P with a 360 x 360 resolution screen, I really think it would be quite easy to fit a 320 x 240 landscape screen in the same space the current one uses - the device could possibly be even shorter.
Yes, I agree with you there, it would be interesting -- and we know WM5 Pocket PC supports 320x240. (BTW, the 700p is 320x320.) A perfectly acceptable alternative would be 480x480, which WM5 does fully support.
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No kidding - just wish they would realize how much more dominant they could be if they just were quicker to innovate.
Hah, if they moved faster back in the '90s, there might not have been Windows Mobile. In fact, at the PR, it was clear that the emphasis on the Treo platform was usability first and foremost as opposed to the latest technology. Mind you, they were focusing on the 680 as a consumer platform, but I think it generally applies to their corporate philosophy too.
Palm os cannot handle 2 data connections simultaneously. It cannot multitask. It was designed for a handheld not smartphone, hence as a handheld it's really good ie reliable and easy to use.
The crashes reported above on the TX relate to a bug with Blazer and Wifi and also problems with dbcache.
I have used the 750v and as hardware goes the design is very good and in real life it looks good.
The software or rom definitely needs an update to make it stable and improve the radio reception. I had a release model for 4 days. The radio reception was poor and it crashed like hell. I have 2 friends who have one. One friend , an experienced user, got so fed up of the crashes he returned handset 3 days later. The other really likes his, and is not having too many issues.
I personally have been trying Symbian UIQ3, with a Sony Ericsson m600i. That is a great design. Sold that now and just waiting for delivery of my new Fujitsu Siemens T830 anyday now :-)
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