[alex_kac]

But that's the point: FlexMail 2007 Rev 2 does NOT break anything. I can guarantee that. Nothing in FlexMail touches the system in terms of affecting anything. Jerry never said that it broke SMS from the built in SMS app.

I guarantee anyone $500 - right now and here via check UPSed to them if they prove me wrong - that FlexMail Rev 2 does not break existing functionality. You can install FlexMail Rev 2 and even if you make FM the default Mail/SMS - you can go into \WINDOWS and launch tmail.exe directly and everything will work perfectly. That is because FM does not overwrite existing code, it does not replace existing files, and it does not interfere with existing apps. The most it does on the Smartphone is change the launch app registry setting for the SMS client.

The ONLY issue Jerry had was sending SMS within FlexMail itself. And I believe we found the issue. Some devices (not the ones we have obviously) implement SMS sending for MAPI a bit differently. We think we found the issue and we are putting up a build with this one change (its one field diff).

http://www.pocketinformant.com/Forum...howtopic=11137

[alex_kac]

But that's the point: FlexMail 2007 Rev 2 does NOT break anything. I can guarantee that. Nothing in FlexMail touches the system in terms of affecting anything. Jerry never said that it broke SMS from the built in SMS app.

I guarantee anyone $500 - right now and here via check UPSed to them if they prove me wrong - that FlexMail Rev 2 does not break existing functionality. You can install FlexMail Rev 2 and even if you make FM the default Mail/SMS - you can go into \WINDOWS and launch tmail.exe directly and everything will work perfectly. That is because FM does not overwrite existing code, it does not replace existing files, and it does not interfere with existing apps. The most it does on the Smartphone is change the launch app registry setting for the SMS client.

The ONLY issue Jerry had was sending SMS within FlexMail itself. And I believe we found the issue. Some devices (not the ones we have obviously) implement SMS sending for MAPI a bit differently. We think we found the issue and we are putting up a build with this one change (its one field diff).

http://www.pocketinformant.com/Forum...howtopic=11137

[alex_kac]

Originally Posted by chriswren

Had some nice features but with 300 mails in my inbox it was unusable.......... it ran so slow that the screen would never show all the mails and syncing with new mails would fail time and time again.

I used sync with exchange server which does not use Flexmails database as far as I understand so how come the standard email program can load this easily within seconds but flexmail craps out ??!?

I also tried the same mailbox on the exchange server but connecting using pop3 instead of exchange sync, same problems.

Stay away from this software untill it works properly.

I loved the idea of search facility and turning mails in to caladar appointments or tasks but just can't cope with more than 10 mails at a time.

FlexMail is a memory user. We have users with multiple email accounts and hundreds of email. I use it that way on my Treo 700wx. However I never could on my 700w.

If you are downloading 300 messages - is it headers only? Full messages? That includes attachments too. FlexMail is ready for prime time - but you have to understand that its not going to handle 2GB of mail on a device with 30MB free RAM. The built in app does handle memory better than us right now as it only loads the message data it needs and we load the message data for each folder entirely right now.

[Jerry Raia]

Alex, the latest build has indeed solved my SMS problem. I will use FlexMail exclusively and see how it goes.

[alex_kac]

So you want to know what the issue was? Fun stuff.

We created the MAPI SMS message using the PIMPR_BODY property which worked on our phones and carriers. We changed it to the PIMPR_SUBJECT and we saw that worked as well on our carriers/phones but now it also works on others.

We'll probably re-release FlexMail with this bug fixed today if we get more positive reports.

I also want to mention - if you have any BUGS (not support) - feel free to post them to http://bugz.webis.net/ That way we can track them.

[Mike Temporale]

Originally Posted by Jerry Raia

Alex, the latest build has indeed solved my SMS problem. I will use FlexMail exclusively and see how it goes.

I've just downloaded it as well and will make the switch over the next day or so. I'm pretty interested in this IMAP IDLE thing.

[chaznet]

Installed the latest build onto my T-Mobile Dash; looks nice and SMS worked fine when I tried it. Some other stuff I noticed:

Search was >very< slow; I use Exchange, and it seems like the message search function is searching the server? If so, that's great. It would be nice to have the option to just search locally stored message bodies and/or headers.

In the search results window, a listing by folder would be useful. None of the columns contain the folder info, which would be better than no folder info. Ideally, the list would be more like:

Folder A
-Message 1
-Message 2
Folder B
-Message 1
-Message 2

When in the search results screen, if I scroll down to the message listing, I can't scroll back up to the text entry field to start a new search. Have to close the search window, and start a new one.

The contact pictures don't display in either the SMS or my Exchange messages. One of those things you don't miss until it's gone...

[onlydarksets]

Being too lazy to investigate this myself, can somebody tell me if this works with Exchange? That is, does FM use its own datastore, or can I use it to view HTML messages on my Exchange server?

Thanks!

[alex_kac]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Being too lazy to investigate this myself, can somebody tell me if this works with Exchange? That is, does FM use its own datastore, or can I use it to view HTML messages on my Exchange server?

Thanks!

Thats far more complex a question. The answer is - depends on how you hook up to Exchange. If you use ActiveSync or ActiveSync Exchange, then you are limited by that conduit. On Wm5 and below, that provides plain text. It does this at the server or desktop. No HTML email ever comes in to the Pocket PC. So through those data stores, you will not get any feature improvements in using FlexMail besides the UI. You are limited by ActiveSync.

if you connect via IMAP - then yes, you will get HTML email. FlexMail is designed as standalone email app that also "by the way" can access the built in ActiveSync/SMS data stores. It is not designed to be a replacement for Messaging for ActiveSync. You will never find a better ActiveSync client than Messaging. But you will not find a better IMAP/POP3 client than FlexMail.

[alex_kac]

Originally Posted by chaznet

Installed the latest build onto my T-Mobile Dash; looks nice and SMS worked fine when I tried it. Some other stuff I noticed:

Search was >very< slow; I use Exchange, and it seems like the message search function is searching the server? If so, that's great. It would be nice to have the option to just search locally stored message bodies and/or headers.

I assume you are searching ActiveSync email. That is very slow. Searching FlexMail's native database for POP3/IMAP is faster.

In the search results window, a listing by folder would be useful. None of the columns contain the folder info, which would be better than no folder info. Ideally, the list would be more like:

Folder A
-Message 1
-Message 2
Folder B
-Message 1
-Message 2

When in the search results screen, if I scroll down to the message listing, I can't scroll back up to the text entry field to start a new search. Have to close the search window, and start a new one.

Please add that as a feature request in http://bugz.webis.net/

The contact pictures don't display in either the SMS or my Exchange messages. One of those things you don't miss until it's gone...

Yes, I think we're adding that in Rev 3.

[cvdbl]

Tried it yesterday. In fact I have tried every version of FlexMail since 1.0.

I used to have the SMS issue on my MDA w TMobile.

With this version, on my new TMO Dash, things worked fine. However the performance make the app essentially unusable for me. I sync my work email using MS Direct Push. Filing a message into a another folder takes 8 full minutes every time to load up the list of folders. Just unusable.

I also found the UI to have too many sub-menus. I should not have to go through 3 level of indirections to do a simple task.

Other than that the interface is nice and it has very nice improvement over pocket inbox. Just wished the tool requirements would have been thought more thoroughly

C.