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Old 08-03-2002, 09:42 PM
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can i get an amen'!

cheers,
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I'll amen that :!:
 
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Old 08-03-2002, 10:00 PM
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he doesn' seems to be the only one who dislikes it.
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupda...876220,00.html
Well, for sure here's quite right on a few counts; he's not receiving the device blindly saying yes it's great and all. He's put it to the test and found a few flaws and I completely agree with him on most counts.

For example when he says:

"One thing any converged device should do is enable me to respond via any available medium to any inbound communication. For example, with this device, I should be able to respond to any entry in the call log using my choice of SMS, e-mail, or phone call. Also, I should be able to pick any of the contact's available phone numbers. However, all you can do with phone log is reply via SMS or phone (no e-mail) and the only phone number you can use is the one listed in the call log. Likewise, from the device's Pocket Outlook inbox, you cannot reply to an e-mail with anything but an e-mail. If the integration had been done right, I would be able to reply to an e-mail using SMS or phone as well."

It looks like programmers didn't intensely put it to use; they just thought about what would be needed, programmed it and tested if what they did worked right. No deep thought was put into it and the article author's comments are pointing this out.
 
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Old 08-03-2002, 10:57 PM
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"One thing any converged device should do is enable me to respond via any available medium to any inbound communication. For example, with this device, I should be able to respond to any entry in the call log using my choice of SMS, e-mail, or phone call. Also, I should be able to pick any of the contact's available phone numbers. However, all you can do with phone log is reply via SMS or phone (no e-mail) and the only phone number you can use is the one listed in the call log. Likewise, from the device's Pocket Outlook inbox, you cannot reply to an e-mail with anything but an e-mail. If the integration had been done right, I would be able to reply to an e-mail using SMS or phone as well."
This and some of the other things mentioned in the review would be great new features. Let's remember, the Pocket PC Phone Edition is a version 1.0 product on the phone integration side. It's going to get better. Hopefully some of the features mentioned by this and other reviewers will make it into future releases.
 
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Old 08-03-2002, 11:13 PM
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You guys are going way overboard. You are attacking Walt for his negative opinion, when in fact there seems to be a concensus among analaysts and reviewers that Microsoft didn't get it right on the first attempt. Which is typical of Microsoft.

Check out Anchordesk's Friday show: http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stor...35517,00.html#

Rob Enderle doesn't like the PPC Phone either. Can you see a pattern here? Nobody seems to be gushing over this product. *Gasp*...could it be possible these people have a valid point? 8O

Stop acting as though the whole damn world is out to get Pocket PC. :roll:
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Old 08-03-2002, 11:37 PM
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I agree with Foo Fighter.

There's still far too many things that the PPC gets wrong, and from what I've read of the first implementation of the PPC phone devices, there's plenty wrong on that as well.

Palm and its licensees get plenty of things wrong too, don't get me wrong. But the PPC has just as many sore points, if not more because of the PPC's platform attempt to "do more". I wish Microsoft would stop trying to anticipate what we want to do with the devices, and give us the core tools to do it ourselves. That would stimulate and foster growth in the PPC software market to no end as well, as people would do apps that use core services to customize the device.

Think about it, wouldn't it be great all around if you could go into the OS, with some serious tinkering, and manually set things like the battery level warning (I'd set mine to 20%), or key sounds for alarms, repeating alarms, or gasp, wether or not you wanted the X to minimize apps or close them outright?

And you know developers would then write programs to facilitate and ease the transition for these core services....

But I digress. Here's one HUGE problem I see with the PPC phone devices that hasn't been addressed yet:

No easy way to port that GPRS signal over to another device, like say my notebook computer.

Until a PPC phone device can do that, I'm not buyin'. And the PPC device would have to be essentially "off" (saving batteries) while still providing GPRS to the external device. And still be able to answer a call, like how my Motorola P280 can today.

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Old 08-04-2002, 01:18 AM
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hmm, i thought this was pointed out clearly by now, but apparantly some of you missed it.

What these rants are about is : we hate reviewers that don't know their stuff. Like previously said, it's painfully obvious that some reviewers haven't gotten passed the manual and simply haven't turned the product on. Some points written in the urls posted earlier where simple lies, nothing more.

In this thread tho, some criticism is posted about ppc phone edition, which in fact is based on facts. Therefore this criticism has the right to exist and is totally correct.

Bottom Line :Criticism based on lies is terrible and isn't worthy to such a product and diserves to be ranted at.

Greetz

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Old 08-04-2002, 02:20 AM
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Nah, just havin' some fun. YOU seem to be taking it too seriously.
Well, reading all those rebuttals of latest news articles, it seemed to me that Ed Hansberry was pretty serious and pissed off. Then came this today screen...
 
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Old 08-04-2002, 02:46 AM
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Nah, just havin' some fun. YOU seem to be taking it too seriously.
Well, reading all those rebuttals of latest news articles, it seemed to me that Ed Hansberry was pretty serious and pissed off. Then came this today screen...
Oh lighten up !!!

In general the tone around here is fairly light-hearted. There are occsional rants. But we don't always take things that seriously around here.
 
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Old 08-04-2002, 02:52 AM
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Well, reading all those rebuttals of latest news articles, it seemed to me that Ed Hansberry was pretty serious and pissed off. Then came this today screen...
think saturday night live meets techtv, but a web site, about pocket pcs. that's what we got going on here. no one is pissed, we're all having a great time.

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Old 08-04-2002, 03:18 AM
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You guys are going way overboard. You are attacking Walt
Checked your avatar lately Foo?
 
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