[ThomasC22]

Originally Posted by Foo Fighter

From what I've seen, I am very skeptical as to whether they will EVER be able to support themselves, let alone become profitable at it. The PDA market isn't yet big enough to support PalmSource on OS licensing revenue alone. Money has to come from somewhere else as well....like drug trade, illegal arms smuggling or something like that.

Well, and that has always been the problem. Microsoft would probably write the whole thing off just to control the platform but PalmSource doesn't have the benefit of a company sitting on nearly 41 billion dollars in "spare cash"

The funny thing is that PalmSource probably has the right idea with their eBook reader in that the way that money will probably eventually be made on the PDA is by selling both an OS and applications, just like in the PC Market (where MS still makes the great majority of their money off of Office)

[ThomasC22]

Originally Posted by Foo Fighter

From what I've seen, I am very skeptical as to whether they will EVER be able to support themselves, let alone become profitable at it. The PDA market isn't yet big enough to support PalmSource on OS licensing revenue alone. Money has to come from somewhere else as well....like drug trade, illegal arms smuggling or something like that.

Well, and that has always been the problem. Microsoft would probably write the whole thing off just to control the platform but PalmSource doesn't have the benefit of a company sitting on nearly 41 billion dollars in "spare cash"

The funny thing is that PalmSource probably has the right idea with their eBook reader in that the way that money will probably eventually be made on the PDA is by selling both an OS and applications, just like in the PC Market (where MS still makes the great majority of their money off of Office)

[Hitman2]

Originally Posted by mookie123

it’s uncommon to find apps for the Palm OS larger than 150K, on the PPC side, it's hard to find any sort of app, smaller than 500K. .

It's also uncommon to find any PalmOS apps that will keep me using my PDA... my visor is dust-bait. All my friends who have Palm OS devices never use 'em, whereas all my friends who have PocketPC's are still using them every day. That is definitely why I will be buying a PocketPC soon... I want the convenience of a PDA, but the PalmOS devices bore the crap out of me and do not motivate me to carry them from one side of my desk to the other any more, let alone carry them with me when I leave the house.

Just MHO, but... Palm OS is for sour grapes types.

[ThomasC22]

Originally Posted by Hitman2

It's also uncommon to find any PalmOS apps that will keep me using my PDA... my visor is dust-bait. All my friends who have Palm OS devices never use 'em, whereas all my friends who have PocketPC's are still using them every day. That is definitely why I will be buying a PocketPC soon... I want the convenience of a PDA, but the PalmOS devices bore the crap out of me and do not motivate me to carry them from one side of my desk to the other any more, let alone carry them with me when I leave the house.

Well, I started to mock you, and then I thought about it, and your right. I think a lot of what keeps people going back to their PDAs is cool factor. Lets face it you could get the same job done with a paper organizer, But it's the wow factor that really makes it worth while.

[Ed Hansberry]

Originally Posted by ThomasC22

Well, I started to mock you, and then I thought about it, and your right. I think a lot of what keeps people going back to their PDAs is cool factor. Lets face it you could get the same job done with a paper organizer, But it's the wow factor that really makes it worth while.

It is the WOW factor that gets you going, but it is the killer integration that keeps it worthwhile. Yesterday I:
*Listened to a 7.5 hour audible book while driving on an 8.5 hr round trip.
*Checked email 3 times during a meeting
*Added 4 tasks and cleared 2-3.
*Reviewed an emailed spreadsheet. made some comments and emailed it back.
*Read this site's front page via an RSS sync.
*dictated 2 voice notes. Note this can be done DURING an Audible playback.
*Sync'd Avantgo
*Took care of one critical issue via Instant Messenger

Except for Pocket RSS, all of that is integrated into the device, with all wireless done via bluetooth and a T68. It is just fun to use the device.

[Foo Fighter]

Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry

Yesterday I:
*Listened to a 7.5 hour audible book while driving on an 8.5 hr round trip.
*Checked email 3 times during a meeting
*Added 4 tasks and cleared 2-3.
*Reviewed an emailed spreadsheet. made some comments and emailed it back.
*Read this site's front page via an RSS sync.
*dictated 2 voice notes. Note this can be done DURING an Audible playback.
*Sync'd Avantgo
*Took care of one critical issue via Instant Messenger.

And you say I have too much free time on my hands? 8O

[ThomasC22]

Originally Posted by Foo Fighter

And you say I have too much free time on my hands? 8O

Awwwww, it's like back in the PDABuzz days all over again.

[Rob Alexander]

it’s uncommon to find apps for the Palm OS larger than 150K, on the PPC side, it's hard to find any sort of app, smaller than 500K. .

Whenever I see this argument, I know the person writing it just doesn't get it. When we talk about large storage on a PPC (or at least when I do), it's generally not about program size, but about how much data I can carry around with me all the time. Simetimes that data is in a program, like when you carry a large dictionary with a 10 MB data file, but mostly it's all my data. I carry tons of documents, ebooks, papers I've written, Powerpoint presentations, images of everything under the sun, maps, etc. (Not to mention MP3s on the storage card.) I never know when I'll need any one thing, so I just try to have as much as I can with me all the time. And when someone brings up a topic at a meeting (or whatever) and I have information on it with me, I know that a measley 16 MB simply would not be enough for me even if I used absolutely none of it on the programs themselves. And until I can fit the entire Encarta Reference Suite on my PPC with room to spare, I'll say we still don't have enough storage in these things for all the data I'd like to have.

[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry

Except for Pocket RSS, all of that is integrated into the device, with all wireless done via bluetooth and a T68. It is just fun to use the device.

Dude, how much is your T-Mobile bill? 8O

--bdj

[Ed Hansberry]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyJ

Dude, how much is your T-Mobile bill? 8O

--bdj

I just use the $19.99 10MB plan. Email sync and the like is usually 50-100K per sync, maybe a bit more if there are file attachments. I limit emails to 50K each by default, though I can always override on important emails. I didn't download that 7.5hr book via GPRS. :lol: It was 28MB! I sync'd before I left home. RSS is very clean, maybe 50K. Avantgo is a hog but I wanted new info. About 700K.

I only really use it like this when out of the office - about 3-5 days a month. The rest of the time, I use my WiFi card.

[Hitman2]

Originally Posted by ThomasC22

Well, I started to mock you, and then I thought about it, and your right. I think a lot of what keeps people going back to their PDAs is cool factor.

Well, it is for me anyway. I mean, the PIM functions are essential. But the PIM and note taking aspects could still come in handy for me, yet I can't bring myself to use the Palm OS device at all anymore.

So I wasn't just being facetious, I actually meant what I was saying! I acknowledge that others might not feel the same and might have different uses and needs regarding their PDA's.