[Jereboam]

Disappointingly this thread seems to have been turned into a PSP/DS debate which is really of zero interest to me...can we split the threads or stay on topic?

[Jereboam]

Disappointingly this thread seems to have been turned into a PSP/DS debate which is really of zero interest to me...can we split the threads or stay on topic?

[Ed Hansberry]

Originally Posted by Jereboam

Disappointingly this thread seems to have been turned into a PSP/DS debate which is really of zero interest to me...can we split the threads or stay on topic?

Yeah. I didn't realize how bad it had become. PSP vs DS at http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...ic.php?t=41399 .

Keep this to the palm obituary. :nonono:

[lapchinj]

Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry

PalmOS, as we know it, is dead...

RIP. But they've been on life support for some time. I'm just wondering when they'll finally pull the plug.

Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry

...When someone has a monopoly people scream that without competition the consumer loses. Well, in general I agree...

I also agree very strongly with that. Even though MS is very pushy but they eventually give the consumer what they want generally (usually after 3 tries). I got the feeling that if there was no competition for Palm, and seeing the way they treated developers and users alike, everybody would still be using a Palm Pilot. There would be no more memory, VGA or even palm based smartphones.

I wonder what will happen with the Trio now that all these people are starting to disappear from Palm? They've had their share of problems with software on it and the Palm OS.

Jeff- :boohoo:

[Jonathan1]

I think I read the same thing about Apple a few years ago. :roll:

Palm OS isn't going anywhere. At some point someone will buy them out and actually DO something with that company.

[Jereboam]

Cheers Ed.

I think Palm One/Source really have an opportunity here. They have basically taken all the criticism there is re Cobalt already, and now have confirmed it's a dead OS.

Mobile optimised Linux? Bring it on. I actually don't care what underlying OS they use as long as they learn lessons from both WM and POS and give it a great wrapper/GUI.

A couple of things I think they have to make sure of:

1. Don't leave developers out in the cold like they have done previously. Actively encourage and assist the people who write great Palm software in transitioning to the new OS. SDKs, dev conferences etc...
2. Don't totally outsource hardware...the Treo and LifeDrive are handsome pieces of hardware with great Apple-esque design cues. Plus people like a brand name...even if we fans know that most devices are made by only a few OEMs (HTC etc).
3. Don't go 100% smartphone, keep true PDAs coming too. Most importantly don't split OS development. MS have learnt from the market and merged the two platforms.

[bjornkeizers]

Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry

Yeah. I didn't realize how bad it had become. PSP vs DS at http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...ic.php?t=41399 .

Keep this to the palm obituary. :nonono:

Whenever you do that, I get this image in my mind of Friendly Gardener Ed, frantically running around with teeny, tiny garden clippers, trimming and fussing over his award-winning rose bushes

Carry on.

[Regint]

Symbian sold 6.75mil devices last quarter alone on 180% growth. Those are the kind of figures that make even Microsoft green with envy.

Palm is irrelevent and I'm sure that Microsoft know this.

[Fishie]

Originally Posted by Jereboam

Disappointingly this thread seems to have been turned into a PSP/DS debate which is really of zero interest to me...can we split the threads or stay on topic?

Yeah sorry about that, it wasnt my intention either since I simply said I failedto see how the PSP was competition for WindowsCE, I never even mentioned the DS at first but things seemed to have escalated from that.
In any case that discussion is split from here now so.

[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by Jonathan1

I think I read the same thing about Apple a few years ago. :roll:

The difference is that Apple had enough financial footing to ride out the low before OS X was released, and that they were largely able to adopt the NeXT architecture that they bought out. Neither is true for PalmSource. I wouldn't write them out just yet, but they've gotta move fast.

--janak

[Jereboam]

Symbian only sold licenses for a bundled OS - not a single device. Nokia etc sold devices that run Symbian OS.

That figure of 6+ million includes vanilla mobile phones which are not really relevant to this conversation...the vast majority of so-called "smartphones" touted by Symbian supporters are plain-jane mobiles. Not PDAs. They don't even try to be and that's fine - many people just want a telephone. The N-Gage is supposedly a Symbian "smartphone"...nuff said.

I would be interested to know how many P900/P910s or Nokia 9500/9700s they sold - that would be a reasonable comparison against WM and POS devices. I'm bettting the number is substantially lower. Anyone got the numbers?