hrm.... it would seem the Tungsten is more like the iPAQ 3600 than I gave it credit for. :lol: :lol: :lol:
It has DUST under the screen!
Well, we all knew this was going to happen, now that Palm has been dragged kicking and screaming into innovation they're having to play catch up to the PocketPC now.
Since when has Palm EVER priced their units for what they are really worth? Never. The Vx, M5xx were stupidly overpriced for what you got. Even the Zire is a rip-off at $99 (you can get an m105 on sale for $75.) The Tungsten's no differerent. The NR-70v was overpriced, but offered things not available in other PDAs (camera, 320 x 480 screen). With a transflective screen, the Tungsten would be a fair deal at $300.
Gee Ed, what's the PT Barnum icon supposed to mean? :wink:
hrm.... it would seem the Tungsten is more like the iPAQ 3600 than I gave it credit for. :lol: :lol: :lol:
It has DUST under the screen!
Well, we all knew this was going to happen, now that Palm has been dragged kicking and screaming into innovation they're having to play catch up to the PocketPC now.
Next thing you know there will be a scandal about Palm saying had 16 bit colour when it's ony 12 bit colour - WAIT - it's already happened! :wink: What happens next? Ah yes - I remember now - Dell enters the handheld market and kicks everyone's butts. :P :lol:
It's interesting that the Tungsten line is being marketed to "power users". It seems to me that those are the users who have had it up to their eyeballs with the dust issue. There's no longer any excuse for this.
I for one don't give a darn about dust under the screen. I had a couple specks under my Palm m515 screen, and I have a couple under my e740 screen as well. If you all are half as neurotic about dust on your screen as you are about dust behind the screen, you must live in a bubble (or at least own a whole lot of HEPA filtration devices).
Regarding the Tungsten T, I think it looks like a good deal for the money. I find 15MB to be adequate on my Sony T615. Palm OS machines do less than PPCs do, but some of us like the way they do things enough to justify the price. I bet that many of the members in this forum still carry both a Palm OS device and a PPC (I usually carry an e740 and an m500). I don't understand why so many of you feel the need to bash Palm, but I think it springs from insecurity.
Regarding the Tungsten T, I think it looks like a good deal for the money.
That is the issue that most have with it though. For $349, you can get a Toshiba e330 at Amazon.com that has 64MB of RAM, a 300MHz processor, full MP3/WMA capabilities and a file system that makes putting files on your storage card simple.
The only thing you don't get is bluetooth integrated. You can get a bluetooth SD card for $120 or so, so that puts it at $469, still $30 cheaper than the Palm and now has everything and more.
As many have said, this device at $499 is rediculious. $399 would make tons more sense and $299-$349 is the real spot this should be.
As for dust, if they had used transflective like Sony/HP/ViewSonic, this wouldn't be a problem.
I for one don't give a darn about dust under the screen.
Heh. Haven't played around with Palm in 2 year so I don't know if you can do this but on a Pocket PC if you apply a darker motif either by changing the colors or applying a theme those light specs of dust WILL drive you crazy after a time. Try making that above statement again when watching a movie. Or having a dark background. It does get annoying after a while. Dust is a defect plain and simple. would you accept 5 or 6 dead pixels on your laptop or desktop display after working with it for a week?
Palm is learning the ins and outs of reflective tech. They are the newbie here and are going to be seriously slapped around by the consumer until they fix this problem. How much you wanna bet that that users are already calling Palm up over this issue. How much you want to bet that Palm, at least initially is going to ignore the problem? They did it with the color depth issue. They did it with sudden sync death syndrome on the 505's. I'll bet they are going to do the same here as well
Regarding the Tungsten T, I think it looks like a good deal for the money.
That is the issue that most have with it though. For $349, you can get a Toshiba e330 at Amazon.com that has 64MB of RAM, a 300MHz processor, full MP3/WMA capabilities and a file system that makes putting files on your storage card simple.
The only thing you don't get is bluetooth integrated. You can get a bluetooth SD card for $120 or so, so that puts it at $469, still $30 cheaper than the Palm and now has everything and more.
As many have said, this device at $499 is rediculious. $399 would make tons more sense and $299-$349 is the real spot this should be.
Comparing RAM, processor speed, etc between a Palm and a PPC is pointless when you consider how different the two really are. We pay for the whole system, and not all good things are quantifiable specs. When you read a review of a digital camera, what is more important, the # of megapixels, or the way the photos look in the end?
Comparing RAM, processor speed, etc between a Palm and a PPC is pointless when you consider how different the two really are. We pay for the whole system, and not all good things are quantifiable specs. When you read a review of a digital camera, what is more important, the # of megapixels, or the way the photos look in the end?
So which one do you think is better deal NX 60 or Tungsten?
...ahh yes, you have to compere specs too. and NX60 use Xscale ....etc. etc...
or do you compare both device based on the amount of aura they both emits?
and yes, megapixels number correlate to the picture fidelity. That's why people consider megapixels as one parameter.
Comparing RAM, processor speed, etc between a Palm and a PPC is pointless when you consider how different the two really are.
To some extent, yes, they scale differently, but they're not completely incomparable. Try loading ebooks or pictures on your Palm; it will run out of memory far before the equivalent PPC, because the PPC just has more RAM. I keep a ton of ebooks on my iPaq all the time. I couldn't do that on any Palm without expansion memory. You can buy a SD card, but that just ups the price.
Also, how do you find this a good deal? I think the current Clie's are a far, far better deal. With the T, you're getting a hires screen and bluetooth over the m515, and that's currently it. $500 for that isn't a deal IMHO.
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