[Ce]

Originally Posted by ThomasC22

PocketPC on the other hand is capable of far more, multimedia especially, and will remain far more capable until ATLEAST Palm OS6 rolls around.

...but only if they fix the xscale joke. In the meantime there are a lot of new xscale devices and they all suffer the same problems when it comes to xscale.

1. you see the "turning wheel" a lot more
2. A lot of software runs noticably slower
3. PPC 2002 finaly has a slideslowplayer in ROM.......the mediaplayer
4. Screens, menu's etc. open up a lot faster on the "old" STRONGARM 206 MHz.

The new devices is one step forward (BT, WiFi etc) but also two steps back (xscale, overall performance).

I tested my conclusions on a Jornada 565, iPaq 3970 and a FSC Loox....not scientific but simple "user" tests.


Carel

[Ce]

Originally Posted by ThomasC22

PocketPC on the other hand is capable of far more, multimedia especially, and will remain far more capable until ATLEAST Palm OS6 rolls around.

...but only if they fix the xscale joke. In the meantime there are a lot of new xscale devices and they all suffer the same problems when it comes to xscale.

1. you see the "turning wheel" a lot more
2. A lot of software runs noticably slower
3. PPC 2002 finaly has a slideslowplayer in ROM.......the mediaplayer
4. Screens, menu's etc. open up a lot faster on the "old" STRONGARM 206 MHz.

The new devices is one step forward (BT, WiFi etc) but also two steps back (xscale, overall performance).

I tested my conclusions on a Jornada 565, iPaq 3970 and a FSC Loox....not scientific but simple "user" tests.


Carel

[mookie123]

I thought Zayo will put out a new display driver that will increase the 400Mhz speed by leap and bound?

Somebody already run Benchmark comparison.

http://www.pocketpctools.com/modules...rticle&sid=112

[Ce]

According to some pictures at www.the-gadgeteer.com this PPC has a "turbo" mode which makes is run pretty fast. The reviewers also noticed a very bad batterylife when running this mode.

[Nikhil]

I definately see my 3970 performing better than my 3835 performed (true, the 3835's performance sucked in the first place)...I rarely get the spinning wheel, and I find no need to close background programs. Apps run just as fast, and some games run slightly smoother. Granted, it's not the performance we had hoped for..

[that_kid]

I'm very happy with my 3970 also, having gone through the whole Ipaq series this by far is the best. Having said that i think for Microsoft to really move ahead they need to fix the halfa** things they have in place now (ie activesync, connection mangler, pocket word, pocket IE & media player...wimp for short). The best pda is the one that can do what you need and maybe a few things more. It's all a matter of choice but the pocket pc could be better if some of the past issues where addressed rather than the pushed aside to make way for new features and services.

[jlp]

Whether the XScale slowness on PPCs has to do with WinCE or not will soon be revealed by XScale PDAs running other OSes: whether Palm or Unix (like the Zaurus). OTOH if we see manufacturer of non PPC devices will not use XScale that could imply the XScale really is flawed.

[Ed Hansberry]

Originally Posted by jlp

Whether the XScale slowness on PPCs has to do with WinCE or not will soon be revealed by XScale PDAs running other OSes: whether Palm or Unix (like the Zaurus). OTOH if we see manufacturer of non PPC devices will not use XScale that could imply the XScale really is flawed.

Correct me if I am wrong, but MS has as much said CE 3.0 and 4.0 are not X-Scale optimized. Don't see where the controversy is at this point.

[Kopiert]

Palm's "advantage" has always been simplicity. It feels as if they are now taking on the PPC head-on. If you want a hand held PC buy a PPC,it has been designed to be just that- with high levels of compatibility with the grey thing that sits on your desk. If you want the basics go with a Palm. The two devices started from different places, one as a replacement for your Filofax (remember those?) the other as a mini PC. Why (beyond brand loyaty) would you buy this over a PPC, which will do the same, only better.


To Vagelis I know at least ten people who have gone back to Palms. Palms still do the basics (date book,contacts) better than a PPC IHMO, its GUI is better, its battery life is better, and its size is better.

BTW, having seen the price of the new full-blown Ipaq, might low end lap tops now become competition?

Nick

[Jonathon Watkins]

Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry

Correct me if I am wrong, but MS has as much said CE 3.0 and 4.0 are not X-Scale optimized. Don't see where the controversy is at this point.

Well, some of kind of expected a 400Mhz device to be twice as fast as a 200 Mhz device. Silly - old fashioned thought I know :wink:, but we WERE expecting it........ Silly us, as some programs run slower. Oops. So - when will we see X-scale supported natively by the OS - really?

[Jonathon Watkins]

That Zire really is a kids toy isn't it! Only 4 buttons so there is less to be confused by.

Very much agree with you Foo - what took them so long?