[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by humayunl

I know Outlook on Macs doesn't have task support. And as far as I know, there's no timeframe or word on when this may be available on Outlook for Mac and/or iPhone.

Outlook for Macs no longer exists. Are you perhaps referring to Entourage? That supports tasks, although they can't be synced with Exchange, unfortunately.

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by humayunl

I know Outlook on Macs doesn't have task support. And as far as I know, there's no timeframe or word on when this may be available on Outlook for Mac and/or iPhone.

Outlook for Macs no longer exists. Are you perhaps referring to Entourage? That supports tasks, although they can't be synced with Exchange, unfortunately.

[stevew]

We've all been saying Microsoft has missed the boat for awhile now. The bottom line is that MS just isn't passionate about Windows Mobile anymore and it shows.

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by stevew

We've all been saying Microsoft has missed the boat for awhile now. The bottom line is that MS just isn't passionate about Windows Mobile anymore and it shows.

I sometimes think that, but then I meet with the teams and the people involved and they definitely are passionate about making the product better.

[Phillip Dyson]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

I sometimes think that, but then I meet with the teams and the people involved and they definitely are passionate about making the product better.

I think its just a matter of MS moving away from being a technology company and concentrating more on what they consider return on investment. Unfortunately their products suffer for it.

[ajwalker]

Originally Posted by humayunl

Am I the only one using Tasks on my WM device??


ajwalker, Jason - everyone else not complaining about tasks: are you guys secretly using something else to manage tasks and todo's that you can somehow synchronize over exchange without explicit support for task synchronization (on the iphone)?


I am only wondering why no one complains about it enough... I mean its a very big deal for me and I would think a lot of people use tasks... then again, maybe not. Maybe I should stop too and be happy and buy an iPhone. Life would be simpler with fewer things to do when there's no one to remind me

I use Task (not as much as I should but I DO use it) but they are primarily generated on my Windows Mobile device using Agenda One than through Outlook, mostly because my phone is not connected to my work. I use Task and Calendar for my "real" life and my business.

What really keeps me from going full on with Tasks is the lack of GTD type arrangement native to Outlook Task.

I wish either Microsoft or a third party would create a hiearchical tree view for task that would sync to all flavors of Windows Mobile.

If Xonbi can create a very useful and popular plug in for Outlook, why can't someone solve the lack of functionality in Tasks????

I've seen several other Outlook clones that have this functionality. If they synced natively with my WinMo phone, I'd would stop using Outlook because the others have more features.

[txa1265]

I have always used Tasks, but for a number of years was on more exploratory, long range projects and my WM usage waned ... now I'm back in more 'engineering mode' and Tasks is a major need.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

I sometimes think that, but then I meet with the teams and the people involved and they definitely are passionate about making the product better.

Maybe so but there is a weak link in the chain somewhere. The people doing all the work may be enthusiastic but it's not getting to the street.

[ajwalker]

Originally Posted by stevew

Maybe so but there is a weak link in the chain somewhere. The people doing all the work may be enthusiastic but it's not getting to the street.

No, it's not getting to the street.

Where's our 6.1 upgrade?

Why is it taking so long??

how can Microsoft expect us to continue to think they take Windows Mobile seriously when there is such a deafening silence about what is going on with an upgrade?

I can understand not wanting to tip their hat (too much) about Windows Mobile 7, but they should be feeding the press and pundits a steady stream of whatever information they can come up with to show that Windows Mobile is still relevant to the company.

Whoever is now in charge of Windows Mobile should be on the press circuit "Hey folks, look what we've got going in the Windows Mobile world."

They should be doing that at least weekly and not just from some Windows Mobile blog that you have to already have in your RSS feed. I mean face to face, on the phone, at tech conventions, real interviews, etc.

Otherwise, the lack of news, of visibility, makes it appear they just don't care.

[efjay]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

I sometimes think that, but then I meet with the teams and the people involved and they definitely are passionate about making the product better.

The teams and individuals may be passionate but do they have the power to implement changes/improvements? Whenever a cool app from MS is released it always seems to be isolated from the rest of the OS, for example Windows Live Search offers identical featurs to Google maps plus voice activated searching but you dont see any intergration into the OS functions and its hardly offered as part of the value added apps on new devices yet Gmaps is touted so much you would not think there was another app with the same features. There has been one attempt at intergrating it with another app, in this case it was announced that Copilot 7 would connect to Live Search and allow you to map addresses directly but so far this appears to be another vapourware feature. This separation continues to hurt WM and mobileme has highlighted this once again. Its even more ironic since this service is built on Exchange Activesync,

I sorely wish I could give the WM division of MS a good kick in the pants, how much longer will they sit back and watch their competition gain market share while they actively give away their best features?!

[ctmagnus]

I'm also concerned about the lack of Tasks synchronization. Sure, there are a bazillion Remember The Milk-type sites out there, but native is always better imo. Categories worry me also. Does it do category sync, or is the nice, colourful calendar on the Apple site a result of synching multiple Outlook calendars?

Either way, the promise of Pocket Informant for this platform should go a long ways towards alleviating these two issues.