it uses OS x, but it will never be full os. There is no possiblity that this device has more than 1gb ROM. If you play with linux a little bit, the most stripped linux can be only 100mb, so I believe this OS is almost a highly stripped os x, which means installing any third party applications will need install a lot of libraries at the same time.
Maybe I led some people to misunderstand but I didn't necessarily mean taking the current off-the-shelf OS X software and installing them on the iPhone. Like you implied, having a 1GB+ OS on a phone seems a little impractical :lol: . I was implying that hopefully the iPhone-version of OS X will contain enough power to write some pretty cool apps. WM compared to XP is severely gimped, so i hope iPhone OS X will not be as much. Of course, there is the possibility that Apple will not allow/support 3rd-party apps on the device but that'd be pretty silly of them IMO. From some of the screenshots, the iPhone appears to have a version of a Dashboard-type app installed so the least Apple can do is allow people to make "iPhone Dashboard widgets" (mass speculation there hehe).
Oh, and I wouldn't worry about the missing UMTS/HSDPA support either. I think Apple is just testing the market (probably in North America primarily). If this product is a hit, there's no reason not to make a UMTS version (possibly as a 2nd iPhone revision) to support Europe and 3G carriers worldwide. Also, since this product has a BT interface, GPS support shouldn't be a problem unless as mentioned above, Apple somehow restricts 3rd-party app development.
well it's going to be a modified osx for sure, and stripped, and adapted. it won't use the usual finder for instance. some of the wow technologies from osx like spotlight might be missing. knowing a bit about osx, you could strip it and have a good os with less bell and whistles.
remember, windows ce is NOT a stripped down win 2000/xp/vista, it is a completely different beast. and this is OSX. so we are talking apples and oranges.
why is it impractical to have a 1 gb + rom - (although you can run pretty much the whole osx for less - i think 200 mb - a lot of the install is big big graphic files and all kinds of system services.) but why not a gb on flash? also i didn't see any speck for ram? it's going to have to have at least 256 ram, and that hardware wise might be harder. my hardware knowledge is not so good here.
I'm a recent switcher to OS X, and just love the whole Mac experience. Now the iPhone's come along and I can't stop thinking about it. I think it looks amazing and I don't care how much it costs, I've just got to have one.
I've used Windows Mobile for some time now (I've had five Pocket PCs over the years), but I've always found their usability lacking.
Apple's first try at a phone looks like they've nailed it -- they've taken advantage of the stagnation of the Pocket PC market (for me, nothing's piqued my interest since HP and Dell's VGA models) and produced something truly innovative.
Add my name to the list of those not impressed with OSX. I use both it and XP all day, every day and have fewer problems with XP. It's just another OS and they all have their pros and cons - use whatever does the job. However, I'll be really interested to see what it can do in the context of the iPhone. Seems to me that Windows Mobile is a little crusty around the eyes and in need of an extreme makeover. Apple Inc. (no longer Apple Computer... hmmm) apparently agrees. Go Apple!
Ah, but the iPhone... the last time I got this jazzed by a new piece of hardware was when I first saw the original 4 gig iPod. I think they may have done it again. At the very least, they've raised the bar and introduced a little creativity into the market. None of this technology is really new - it just took a little vision to put it all together.
I'll be keeping a close eye on the iPhone from now until whenever it can actually be taken home - if it's as good as it looks on first blush and can reasonably replace the functionality of my PDA, phone and iPod I'll be drinking the Cupertino Kool-Aid too.
Remember that iPod in general was recently opened up to 3rd party development via the "games" which can be used with wide latitude to make any other app. However, this appears to not be an ipod, but a completly new device, new os, etc, so how the games development interface will port over, I don't know.
Not anything against the iPhone because I think it's an amazing gadget and will probably get one when they come out of course, BUT I am not sold on touchscreens only devices at all. Face grease is a continual problem and personally I find much easier to clean on a non touch screen device.
That being said, I do use a Treo as my primary device....and the smudge factor doesn't keep me from using it.
why is it impractical to have a 1 gb + rom - (although you can run pretty much the whole osx for less - i think 200 mb - a lot of the install is big big graphic files and all kinds of system services.) but why not a gb on flash?
That would be cool. But my thinking was that if Apple advertised an iPhone with 8GB user storage, then for every 8GB device they made, they'd actually have to make the internal storage 9GB - which may/may not increase costs significantly. But as you said, it's more of a comparison between apples and oranges so sure, it'd be cool if it did have an OS with a lot of bells and whistles. Maybe this can be the beast everyone is waiting for. I know I loved using OS X because it was simple and had nice eye-candy on the outside, but if you dig deep into the OS, you get the full Darwin/BSD experience.
I could care less about the iPhone. I'm probably the only person that is not excited by it. I hate the Apple Corporation, I hate their products, I hate MacOS and I hate their philosophy.
Well, this could put my not-so-smart Nokia 'smartphone' out to pasture - so long as the price is reasonable. I do like the idea of being able to use this as a low-rez camera (2.1 Megapixels) with some web browsing capability when I'm too lazy to power up the Axim. Plus, as a video viewer, it shows some promise... and if it's an easy-to-use phone, I'd probably sign up for one in a flash. My Nokia S60-series phone has a problem with crashing that's gotten bloody annoying.. and the camera in this one puts my current phone to shame (less than 1 megapixel).
Still, it's a competitor, and the more power to them - if this can get Microsoft off its asinine idea of putting in low-resolution square-screens as the 'future of Windows Mobile', then I'm all for it.
definitely intriguing
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