APPLE SUCKS....i joined the forum just to say that
My God - a post that makes Apple quake with fear, made in such an anonymous and eloquent fashion. I'm sure that your mother would be proud of it, if only... well, I'll leave that bit alone.
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This has been a fun post to watch and read! If anything, I can see that the MS group lovers are HATING the fact that Apple has done something GOOD! We should all be cheering that this will change everyones way of doing mobile phones, and that helps everyone.......are we all so bitter that we choose to be blind and negative over a good thing? Maybe you are just a negative person anyways?
So let's feel better by hang our hat on the fact that it's too expensive for the average joe consumer? ........ :lol: People buy things that they want because they want it not because they can't afford it!
Remember back.......Even the iPods earlier days were ridiculed for being too expensive for a silly music player........Look where it is now, doing so well that others have copied and followed. I think people have forgotten that the iPod was looked at as too expensive and doomed to fail because the public couldn't afford it.
Let me ask you this question, do you like being told that you can't afford something that you really want? Of course not, and you will save up and purchase. We love expensive cars, we love expensive clothes and we love to eat good food and we buy it because we want it not because we can't afford it.
The public always has a mind and will of it's own and even though we can try and predict the outcome, the only real test is what the facts produce when the product actually hits the marketplace. That is and always will be the only test. Everything else is speculation!
I think that the iPhone will be a HUGE hit! I think that we will see many others follow suit and we will also see many new things from others come out of it all..... This in the end will be a good thing for all of us. So relax! If you don't like Apple or the iPhone, don't buy it! You have choice just like everyone else and you can keep doing the same thing you've always done. I plan on buying one. For me, I will need to save up my pennies like I did when I bought my WM5 Ipaq. I will show off my iPhone everywhere and to everyone! It will be fun!
In all the comments so far, has anyone said "don't buy the iPhone"? If they have, I missed it... please provide a direct link. So, it's okay for an Apple fanboy to suggest that Windows users making critical comments about the iPhone are trying to stop people from buying the thing, but it's not okay for Windows users to suggest that there is a bit of hyperbole coming from Apple with this publicity junket? I suggest to you, and to all Apple acolytes, that freedom of speech is at issue here. Please try to avoid slamming others who haven't 'drunk the koolaid.'
I don't care how many buy iPhones. Doesn't matter to me either way. My interest is more in the psychology of this sort of thing, the way corporations are sometimes so adept in manipulating large numbers of people with hype. There's bound to be an effect on the competition - already has been, with share prices jumping and falling all over the cellphone marketplace - in wealth distribuition and product design and marketing strategy. Great, maybe (or not) that will be a good thing. My earnest fear, if small, is that the effect will be a dumbing-down of device specifications to suit the unwashed masses. Or... this could trigger a contest of one-upmanship, where we soon see WM devices even more loaded with features and UMPCs dropping in price besides. That'd be cool. I doubt it'll happen, as Microsoft's partners for the most part seem a bunch of chicken****, cheap, greedy companies who don't understand that a lot of groundwork needs to be done developing the market for portable computers before real profitability comes into play. No imagination for the most part. The true innovators, such as Toshiba and Casio and even Compaq, seem doomed to fall by the wayside while mediocrity does modestly well in the marketplace. Microsoft itself has shown almost zero interest in promoting awareness in the general populace of the range of WM implementations and features. So I applaud Apple's willingness to be different, while at the same time wish they'd be a bit less interested in unjustifiable hype. The iPhone isn't all that exciting, but it is a start.
The iPhone looks like a nice AAIO (almost-all-in-one) device, but it needs true GPS, video and voice recorder functionality, WiFi sync, and the ability to allow third-party apps.
Eventually, 3G would also be a good addition, but that's not as crucial to me at this point.
These features would certainly help the iPhone's success. But out of the ones I mentioned, the ability for users to load aftermarket apps is the most important, and without this, the phone would largely be an overpriced ornament. Or at least overpriced.
I will say though, that although the iPhone isn't a device I'll be sporting (at least until they add the features I mentioned above), I am soooo glad that Apple made this phone and will be releasing it soon. Their efforts have really raised the standard (at least on some levels, but not all) and challenged all other designers/manufacturers to raise their standards in the same areas as well, in order to match what Apple has done.
All of this benefits the consumer in the end and I can't wait to see what HTC and others will have up their sleeves as they race to catch up.
These features would certainly help the iPhone's success. But out of the ones I mentioned, the ability for users to load aftermarket apps is the most important, and without this, the phone would largely be an overpriced ornament. Or at least overpriced.
I think Apple have it right. This is a consumer phone, aimed at consumers with little or no interest in tinkering. They just want a device that does what it says on the tin.
That interface, with all the moving stuff, slding and animating all over the place looks fantastic. But you can bet that most of us here (we're the tecchie types remember?) will soon get bored of that in favour of getting the the information faster and more easily. Less technical users will be less concerned by such.
In fact, you can bet most of the target uers for this device will probably think it is a whole new class of toy, having never heard of PocketPC, Palm, SmartPhone etc. All their experiences of such technology will have been with their cell phones as they have become increasingly smart recently. But most of that has still ben with the (relatively) cheap, lower-end stuff. It's the business and tecchie owner that has been buying all the PDAs and 'smart' phones up to now ... Apple is going to help change that.
Did anyone see the SNL skit on Saturday night? Steve Jobs did an excellent job poking fun at himself and the iPhone introduction. Promising that it could hold 2 Billion songs and provide an iGenie to do all your bidding. I don't recall the exact quotes, but it was quite refreshing. He obviously recognizes the hype and decided to satire it for free publicity on SNL. The video was up on YouTube, but NBC asked it be pulled -- heaven forbid they receive free advertising. :roll:
I still think the jury is out on the usability aspect of this phone. I know many of you think that Apple has figured this out, but I really think the lack of hard buttons is going to be a major annoyance to the target market. The zoom thing is overrated. My Sony UX has a zoom feature that is rarely used because it's a pain to scroll left and right, as well as up and down to read a page. You either squint our use a fit to screen browser. I hope Apple really hits a home run with the tweaks to the touch screen they are introducing, but my touch screen/phone experience has not been all that positive.
Yeah, watching the video demo of Safari's zooming feature on YouTube made me cringe a bit. Shades of Pocket IE under PPC2000, only with much smaller text. Unreadable at the default page load scale. An infuriating amound of side-to-side scrolling just to read normal text. It'd be great for zooming in on the odd small image I suppose, but for substantial reading just annoying. Netfront or Opera, or even Pocket IE in WM2003 and later, handle fit to screen a lot better. Perhaps the Safari in the iPhone will also offer such an optional view... but they didn't seem to think it was important to mention, if so.
I think Apple have it right. This is a consumer phone, aimed at consumers with little or no interest in tinkering. They just want a device that does what it says on the tin...
I understand what you're saying, and there may be truth in that.
On the other hand, I think for $500 or $600 and a two year contract with Cingular (and even more if Apple sells it unlocked), it's much too high of a price to not have the ability to load aftermarket apps and customize the device to suit your own needs. Besides, virtually all of the people who buy this thing will own a Mac or PC anyway (which will be necessary to take advantage of many of the iPhone's features), and they manage to load software onto those machines, so why would this be any harder?
This is a very expensive, high-end device, and I would tend to think many people who spend this kind of money on it are going to expect more.
I realize that we "Techies" have more knowledge than most, but sometimes I think we underestimate people.
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