The funny thing is, the iPhone makes my Sprint 6700 look like a clunky piece of crap the way my iMac did to my HP desktop that's gathering dust. Apple knows how to appeal to the masses.
There was an s60 firmware upgrade a month or two ago, Did you try installing it?
No - because the phone won't let me apparently upgrade anything, short of taking it back to the store, sending it off to the nearest Nokia-certified repair shop, then bringing it back.
The E62 doesn't replace my E830 for 'serious' book reading and movies on-the-go, but it does an admirable job as a 'runabout' version. I can still read books, surf the internet (fantastic browser!), do emai, watch movies, stream radio etc ... sure no wi-fi, but who needs it with decent phone service.
This kind of expands on one of the other threads of this conversation. You and I both have the phones to extend/suppliment our PDAs which are more powerful in many ways. Others will do the same with the iPhone ... some will see it as an enhanced companion to the Nano, others will see it as a cool runabout to suppliment more powerful devices - iPhone and OQO 2 anybody?
There's room in many of our pockets for more than one device ...
I'm not claiming it would - but my not-so-smartphone is mostly there to take calls... with the ability to take notes as a bonus. I use the music player in it now and then... but otherwise it's a tad unstable (I've had it crash taking a call, if you can imagine that).
For me, the iPhone's a 'cool, I can do this too' sorta device - it takes calls, it can play music if I forget my player... it CAN browse the web if I don't want to fire up my Axim, and it can do things which can be done with other devices should I not have them handy. Most of the negative responses I've seen here so far, or on most forums, relate to either a) it's an Apple product, and Apple products are seen as derivative of original concepts, or b) it's not as good as a real iPod/PDA/Portable Media Center... a concept which I find quite ludicrous as it's not meant to replace any of those for a hardcore user.
It has about as much storage as a Nano - in other words, it's on the high end of MP3 phones. It has the ability to browse the web both with EDGE (bad) and 802.11g (good), so you're not bound strictly to your cell phone comapny's data plan if you're at Starbucks and want to quickly check the weather forecast for tomorrow. It's not as good at watching videos as a PDA or portable video player, but can serve that function in a pinch if you're stuck without power for said device.
Anyone else who claims more for this, and uses that as a reason to justify why it'll crush the rest of the tech world or why it's an overblown Apple product needs to have their heads examined.
"No Office/Exchange/Direct Push support meaning you..." I could have swore that Jobs said it DID have this support.
"No 3G." I reckon they'll have 3G on it in time for xmas for the EU.
"No removable battery." Yeah, a minor fault.
"No hard buttons." I don't know if this is a downside at all, the multitouch interface looked sweet.
"Price." It's worth it.
"no removable storage card slot." It's 4 or 8GB. I've only recently upgraded my SD card in my Universal from 1 to 2GB. And that's only for easier access to TV programs.
"3.5" screen with only a 480x320 resolution." On paper it's not great, but in the demo the screen looked damned good.
"metallic finish on the iPhone's back." Gorgeous!
- it will support Exchange through basic IMAP/POP3, that certainly makes integrated mobile access of all the great Exchange features (Global Address Book, Direct Push, etc) a non-option for the iPhone. Office support is still non-existent on the iPhone.
- a 3G iPhone in the EU does no good for the people here in the US, a very small percentage of which will have the know how to unlock an EU 3G iPhone
- how minor a fault is it going to be when the battery runs out after a long day of use and you need to make an important phone call or grab a critical email and the battery is dead. try telling that user that its just a "minor fault"
- The mature cell phone market has already said what works and what doesn't and touchscreens alone aren't it (this qwerty keyboard thing isn't just some fad that's going to disappear overnight). One-handed operation and tactile feedback are the keys here and if Apple thinks they are going to somehow reverse the overall preferences of an already established market with their fancy UI, they are in for a surprise. Some people (such as yourself) will like it no doubt but I really don't think most general consumers are going to go for it like the iPod once they realize how important one-handed use and tactile feedback are to them (which coincidentally are things the iPod excels at. Go figure, a hugely successful mass consumer product and it happens to have great one-handed use and tactile feedback, Apple should have taken some cues from their own product that works well instead of going in the completely opposite direction and eliminating some of the very features that makes its own iPod a success).
- Maybe its worth it to you just like my $500 smartphone is worth it to me but $600 cell phones (a big difference from a $300 iPod) just are not overall hot sellers in the general mass consumer market (which is who this device appears to be largely targetted towards, its certainly not targetted towards the corporate crowd). Lots of expensive products are arguably "worth it". Being "worth it" doesn't all of a sudden make something affordable, obviously.
- I already explained why in my previous post removable strorage would have been a nice feature in the iPhone and the reason wasn't to hold more multimedia.
- demos and real-life use are very different. However, I'm sure the screen is great (I'm not debating that), but again, as I state in my previous post, if I'm going to drop $600 for a phone with a 3.5" screen, it better have at least the same resolution as devices that have the same size screen, cost less, and are over a year old. I don't think that is unreasonable at all.
- not going to look so "gorgeous" when that shiny finish gets all scratched up
looks great, fairly good features, although no sd or microsd slot and a built in GPS would have been nice. google maps wont help if i am way up in the Michigan upper peninsula where there is no cell phone reception.
I'll wait to see if they permit third party apps to be installed.
Except for the lack of 3G, it's a homerun to me. I'm a Mac user who's been using Palm and then Windows Mobile for years, and am ready to finally have an Apple branded PDA (and phone to boot) that integrates tightly with the apps I use (iCal, Mail, Address Book, Safari, Dashboard, etc).
I can see that smartphone/WM people definitely lean more towards MS, and that's great. I really hope Apple's entry to the market hurries up MS in getting an Aero (Vista) inspired WM to market more quickly, and creates a cycle where the two are constantly improving their software. Competition is good for all of us.
After seeing this up close at MacWorld I am convinced that it will sell faster than beer at a ballgame once it is released. It may lack the nifty enterprise features, but consumers will lap it up. It just screams style, and that is what Suzie Q consumer is buying these days.
I believe the iPhone is going to revolutionize the way we think about mobile phones. Its innovative, it uses 210 patented technologies
The User Interface is absolutely fantastic, the integration of all these technologies is simply put, unique!
I have already preordered the device on the german amazon where it is on the first place of the charts already!!!
After I saw all videos and read everything I could about the iPhone, I suddenly became angry and very disappointed with companies like Microsoft, Nokia and Sony-Ericsson. What are they actually doing? Taking our money?
Yes, they have improved their technologies over the years, but they do it in a very dull and uninnovative way. They just dont have the ability to really think innovative. Money is not the issue here. Look at Microsoft. They are spending 5 billion dollars a year for research! It makes you wonder, why they bother at all! They just don't have a vision. Thats what's really been missing.
Microsoft had developed a very bad user interface for Windows Mobile that is slow, strange to use and surely doesnt appeal to the normal people. Only tech freaks can get used to that (like myself).
I recently had the iPaq 6915 and while the features list is great, if someone takes a look in how they really work, he/she will get disappointed... Just have a look at Safari on the iPhone...Then go and open Pocket Internet Explorer...It just makes someone die laughing with Microsoft...
Look at the Mail app, or the Pictures app (if u can call it an app)
and lets not forget Windows Media Player....
IPOD rocks!
I don't think I am going back to Windows Mobile for many years to come, I hope that Microsoft one day realizes that money isnt everything and start thinking about people...
Please guys, dont compare the iPhone on a feature basis with a Windows Mobile device...Its more like a philosophical comparison that must be made...
For those of you that want to stay on the Windows Mobile camp, I wish you all the best!
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