[Jonathon Watkins]

As the first post in this new forum, I would like to ask you guys, what Windows CE devices do you own and why do you use a Windows CE device rather than a Pocket PC. :?:

Do you prefer the 'simplicity' of Windows CE, the fact that you can customise it more or was it the only OS available on the device you bought? :wink:

So, what are your thoughts on Windows CE?

[Jonathon Watkins]

As the first post in this new forum, I would like to ask you guys, what Windows CE devices do you own and why do you use a Windows CE device rather than a Pocket PC. :?:

Do you prefer the 'simplicity' of Windows CE, the fact that you can customise it more or was it the only OS available on the device you bought? :wink:

So, what are your thoughts on Windows CE?

[arnage2]

id like to know if anyone uses a windows ce in car computer from the mid-late 90's.

[nosmohtac]

I have owned five PPCs, and have never owned a Palm. I have always thought the the HPC would be better than the PPC (other than the pocketable size of PPC), because of the built in Keyboard. I had always wanted to have a Jornada 720, and more recently a 728, but could never justify the price difference.

I just picked up a Jornada 720 with 2 cradles and cables on Ebay for $280.
I thought it was a good price, and even though it has no built in wireless (other than IR), the dual slots still make it a very attractive device.

I played around with a 680 jornada for a couple of weeks, and I was very dissapointed by the DSTN screen. The J720 still has a DSTN screen, but I was pleasantly surprised at the improvement over the 680 series.

I know most people want the 19/4xxx styled PPC because they are very sleek and stylish, but I don't ever carry my PPC in my pocket, and I am not too concerned that it doesn't fit in my pants pocket. I think the form factor of the HPC is far superior to the PPC platform, and offers a feature that most PPCers want: A flip style screen cover.

I can't say that I find great advantages in the OS over PPC other than pocket access and pocket powerpoint (I almost forgot...it is nice to have the recycle bin). I just love the form factor. I wish that I could get one with a TFT screen, and at least VGA resolution, running CE.NET 4.2, but with the NEC Mobilpro 900c running at almost $1000, and similar devices running upwards from $1200. I would rather deal with an ultra-portable laptop. The instant on feature is what makes these devices so useful, but to me it doesn't warrant the same price as a full featured laptop with built in wireless and HD capacities of 80GB.

I've looked at getting the Sigmarion III, but with no built in wireless, and only an SD and CF slot, running a Japanese version of the OS, I'll wait.

With the rumor of HP considering reentering the HPC market, I'm very excited about the upcoming possibilities.

[Jonathon Watkins]

Originally Posted by nosmohtac

I know most people want the 19/4xxx styled PPC because they are very sleek and stylish, but I don't ever carry my PPC in my pocket, and I am not too concerned that it doesn't fit in my pants pocket. I think the form factor of the HPC is far superior to the PPC platform, and offers a feature that most PPCers want: A flip style screen cover.

Agreed. Now that W2003SE can support different screen resolutions and sizes, it will be interesting to see if there are going to be genuine PPCs with clamshell/keyboard designers, or if this will be an exclusive Windows CE design feature.

I wonder if the rumoured HP devices are 'genuine' HPCs (i.e. WCE) or if they will be PPCs......

[nosmohtac]

Originally Posted by Jonathon Watkins

Agreed. Now that W2003SE can support different screen resolutions and sizes, it will be interesting to see if there are going to be genuine PPCs with clamshell/keyboard designers, or if this will be an exclusive Windows CE design feature.

I wonder if the rumoured HP devices are 'genuine' HPCs (i.e. WCE) or if they will be PPCs......

I hope that they are HPC's. They may require a little tinkering to do certain things with them, but it's apparent, by the wide range of screen resolutions and hardware design, that CE.NET has fewer constraints on the OEM's decisions.

I only hope that the price point in not upwards of $1000 US. It wouldn't need to come down too far to make it reasonable in my eyes, considering that I have parted with $400 to $500/year the last 4 years for a new device. If they have one with dual wireless built in, and dual expansion slots (hopefully CF and PC IMO), then I could see blowing $600 - $800.

[Kowalski]

why cant we(windows mobile users) have good designs like sony clie ux 80 and palm tunsten T3 :evil:
we are just slaved to the standart clamshell design because misrosft didnt let any manifucturer any other designs. now they free the design concept but i am sure that it will take companies more than 1 or 2 years to develop different designs than the traditional clamshell devices.

[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by Kowalski

we are just slaved to the standart clamshell design because misrosft didnt let any manifucturer any other designs.

There was an advantage to this, of course -- any Pocket PC application you buy works well on every Pocket PC on the market. It'll be interesting to see how developers adapt to an increasing array of screen resolutions.

--janak

[Kowalski]

i would be glad if there exists hardware designs like jornado 720 like old days.
there are only a couple of devices and they are way too expensive now. like sigmarion.
i am realy looking forward to see clamshell designs

[JohnnyFlash]

Well I have a Sigmarion-III

its WinCE .NET 4.1 Japanese (note I have converted it to look read and feel like an English unit ~85% - still get some Core items that come up in Japanese but for the most part you know what they are).

Cool device and powerful as well.

-JB

[jmbneaf]

DOH !

The above post is mine. I thought I was logged in.

-JB