[alex_kac]

It is triple wireless - but who says you are going to use all 3 simultaneously? Odds are you'll use one or two at any one time.

I only use VGA screens today. But frankly, I have a hard time carrying my PPC around with me unless I know I will need it because of the size. So I have no problem with 240x240, though I'd prefer 480x480 I just understand the concept that when you want something _small_, you can't have large battery with large screen size.

I really don't like the Wizard or Apache. Just way too underpowered, way too big. Now a WM Treo...that interests me, except that I won't get Wifi, I won't get GPS, and probably will suck on RAM.

I really cannot see how EITHER the 6500 OR the 6700 are poorly specced or "disasters". They are very very nicely specced devices targeted at exactly my market. They are not targeted at yours. And that's not a problem. That is why we have choice in devices.

Anybody looking for a perfect device that will satisfy every single range of mobile user is going to be severely disappointed.

[alex_kac]

It is triple wireless - but who says you are going to use all 3 simultaneously? Odds are you'll use one or two at any one time.

I only use VGA screens today. But frankly, I have a hard time carrying my PPC around with me unless I know I will need it because of the size. So I have no problem with 240x240, though I'd prefer 480x480 I just understand the concept that when you want something _small_, you can't have large battery with large screen size.

I really don't like the Wizard or Apache. Just way too underpowered, way too big. Now a WM Treo...that interests me, except that I won't get Wifi, I won't get GPS, and probably will suck on RAM.

I really cannot see how EITHER the 6500 OR the 6700 are poorly specced or "disasters". They are very very nicely specced devices targeted at exactly my market. They are not targeted at yours. And that's not a problem. That is why we have choice in devices.

Anybody looking for a perfect device that will satisfy every single range of mobile user is going to be severely disappointed.

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by brianchris

Wow, a second generation version for a device whose original hasn't even been released yet....now THAT"S progress :lol:

Well, it's been slow in the USA. Elsewhere, particularly in the Asian-Pacific region, the hw6500 has been released for quite some time.

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by ADBrown

Those screenshots certainly don't look like Windows Mobile 5.0. If it's a typo, I might be inclined to believe that they meant Windows Mobile 2003.

That was my initial thought. However, the wording of the intro screen does suggest the inclusion of Windows Mobile 5.0.

"Featuring extended memory, WLAN, and new Microsoft Windows Mobile 2005 software, Phone Edition."

Of course, one might question why HP seem bent on using the Windows Mobile 2005 name. Microsoft changed it to "5.0" months ago.

[Menneisyys]

Originally Posted by alex_kac

I do agree about 480x480 - EXCEPT that I can attest to the fact that high res screens SUCK power like anything, so I guess that's why.

Well, the screen could be switched off. Furthermore, two of the current hi-end VGA devices, the Pocket Loox 720 and the iPAQ hx4700 both have decent battery life, even in comparison with QVGA devices (my PL720 has much better availability (about 12-13 hours) than my iPAQ 2210 (about 7-8 hours) when used for PIM functions or light Web browsing via BT. So, high-res screens, when backed up with the right hardware, don't necessarily consume THAT much power.

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by Menneisyys

Well, the screen could be switched off. Furthermore, two of the current hi-end VGA devices, the Pocket Loox 720 and the iPAQ hx4700 both have decent battery life, even in comparison with QVGA devices (my PL720 has much better availability (about 12-13 hours) than my iPAQ 2210 (about 7-8 hours) when used for PIM functions or light Web browsing via BT. So, high-res screens, when backed up with the right hardware, don't necessarily consume THAT much power.

Of course, with Windows Mobile 5.0, battery life is lengthened regardless of the battery capacity.

[jlp]

Originally Posted by alex_kac

How is g more power hungry than b? They are on the same gigahertz range. Granted, I'm really not an expert on that, but I'd think they'd be the same power.

I'm NO technician, but it seems quite obvious to me that if you pump x times more bits per the same second it should suck up more juice, shouldn't it??

8)

[Menneisyys]

Originally Posted by jlp

I'm NO technician, but it seems quite obvious to me that if you pump x times more bits per the same second it should suck up more juice, shouldn't it??

8)

The processing requirements (assuming the same encoding/ physical radiowave modulation) are indeed higher. With a modem example, you won't be use to use, say, 2-state phase modulation but 4-phase. This requires more processing power.

AFAIK b and g uses the same RF maximal output power, so, bigger output power to make SNR higher are out of question. Therefore, it's only the processing (A/D / D/A) requirements are higher, which, IMHO, don't necessarily lead to much higher power consumption. (Unless the circuitry that does this indeed consumes far more power while doing A/D / D/A translation and wave (de)modulation at a far higher transfer rate. I don't know if that's the case - unfortunately, avauilable tests like that of Tom's Hardware haven't tested/compared power consumption.)

[bnycastro]

Does the HTC Wizard come with SD or miniSD (I think I read that it was miniSD as well)? Another question can this connect to my existing 11b network or do I need a 11g network to use WiFi on the hw67xx

[stevelam]

Originally Posted by bnycastro

Does the HTC Wizard come with SD or miniSD (I think I read that it was miniSD as well)? Another question can this connect to my existing 11b network or do I need a 11g network to use WiFi on the hw67xx

Yes IEEE802.11g (to give is full name) IS backward combatible with IEEE802.11b

[Jason Lee]

What is with all the new ppc phones only having mini-sd???! 8O

Give me my CF slot back, damnit!