[albert]

8AM, June 14, 2004

Does that estimate include the 1 year of carrier testing following the release from manufacturing? Can't imagine many purchasing a 2002 Smartphone in late 2003. Nice to see some progress non-the-less !!

[albert]

8AM, June 14, 2004

Does that estimate include the 1 year of carrier testing following the release from manufacturing? Can't imagine many purchasing a 2002 Smartphone in late 2003. Nice to see some progress non-the-less !!

[thetruth]

Thanks to ixocean at howardforums who has posted two recent pictures of the production version of the i600. Here are the links (looks like Smartphone 2002):

Samsung i600 (Closed)

Samsung i600 (Opened)

Here is the thread

[WintermuteX]

I called a store in madison and they did indeed have the demo and info packet and the rep insisted that the unit features a camera in the center fold of the phone. could it be that verizon will suprise us with a newer release of the unit with ms2k3 and a camera? This sounds strange, can anyone else confirm this camera or not?

[thetruth]

Originally Posted by WintermuteX

I called a store in madison and they did indeed have the demo and info packet and the rep insisted that the unit features a camera in the center fold of the phone. could it be that verizon will suprise us with a newer release of the unit with ms2k3 and a camera? This sounds strange, can anyone else confirm this camera or not?

:roll:

[thetruth]

Here are scans of the info pack mentioned:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...54#post1748454

Enjoy.

[mar2k]

Well. the 2003 OS would be nice, but the real question is whether the phone will be application locked or not. If so, hopefully someone will have a way to unlock them.

There is no doubt that the "fun" quotient certainly goes down quite a bit when these Smartphones are application locked. A lot of the great emulators and freeware coming out for the platform are not signed applications.....

[squirrelist]

I'm pretty sure the phone will be locked. VZW puts lots of effort into testing to make sure a product is reliable before it is released (which explains why VZW customers are always the last to get a new technology - This phone was authorized by the FCC over a year ago now). If it wasn't locked, it would undermine the whole testing period.

[thetruth]

How does "unlocking" a phone work? Is it a hardware or software "lock." Lock's are meant to be broken, right?

Also, can we trust msmobiles story that all US smartphone's will be unlocked?

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/1478.html

[mar2k]

Originally Posted by thetruth

How does "unlocking" a phone work? Is it a hardware or software "lock." Lock's are meant to be broken, right?

Also, can we trust msmobiles story that all US smartphone's will be unlocked?

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/1478.html

That article refers only to Motorola MPx200 Smartphones, not the i600, I would take it with a grain of salt as it may be unlocked by Motorola but locked by AT&T. Who knows until they are actually on the market.

As far as I know the application locks are software based. I've never heard of a hardware lock.

I would not buy one unless unlocked so apps like Pocket TV will work. But that's just me. I'm sure what the prior poster is saying is probably correct. Verizon, of all the US carries seems the the most likely to lock down their devices.

[thetruth]

After the mentioning of lock/unlock, i took a look on google for some info and found this:

http://www.developers.orange.com/tip...lInstructions/

the UK provider Orange has an entire process setup for unlocking the SPV. An interesting read...