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Old 11-21-2006, 06:01 PM
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The EXCELLENT --
a converged device with a large VGA screen

The GOOD --
camera, ROM, any other bells and whistles

The MAYBE NOT SO GOOD --
battery life??
slots?
no GPS?

The BAD --
no bluetooth -- but this can't be true???

The VERY, VERY, BAD --
not for Sprint, or even a non-CDMA US carrier :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:34 PM
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Isn't it a fake? I've never seen such an upper toolbar! :roll:
 
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:38 PM
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No BlueTooth?
I don't think it would tbe THAT bad - today, a no-BT phone is useless because everybody wants to use BT headsets.
 
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:39 PM
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no bluetooth -- but this can't be true???
I'm pretty sure it isn't true - it's only in Japanese-only models that there's no BT.
 
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:42 PM
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That's a very interesting device indeed. Hopefully this will be the device to break the ice for other developers to follow with similar enhancements. Interestingly enough, for myself - I find the 2GB ROM, USB On-The-Go, and TV-Out capabilities to be the most useful. But like another poster said above, I'm not sure how much the NVIDIA GoForce 5500 GPU would be of any use if hardly any developers take advantage of it. It may very well pull up the price without offering much benefit.
1. You need the GPU for the TV out (to be usable).
2. There're quite a few games / emulators that take advantage of the 2700G (and, therefore, the 5500). I'd say it's really cool to have it built-in.
 
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:54 PM
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I've become disillusioned with claims of great GPU chips in new PDA's. The Dell Axims had that advanced GPU that was supposed to be the next great thing and hardly anybody wrote anything to take advantage of the chip.
It's true it's only only few games + the only SNES and PocketGBA emulator that take advantage of it; still, it's much nbicer to have it onboard for little or no additional cost. And it also lets for flawless (as opposed to slowish third-party solutions, including that of the Toshi e800) TV out.

As far as price is concerned: The x50v/x51v was also by far the cheapest VGA device around, while it also sported the 2700G. Yeah, the cheapo (and not very good) screen was one of the reasons they were able to offer it for so cheap; still, an expensive 2700G would have been a stumbling block and Dell most probably wouldn't have included it if it had been considerably expensive.
 
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:59 PM
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And with a power-hungry 3.6" VGA screen, fast CPU, and a GPU to support as well, the battery life is going to be maybe four hours? Six with the optional extended battery?

There's always a price to be paid.
Actually, if correctly designed, the screen doesn't take much battery power. Look at the iPAQ hx4700 or the Pocket Loox 718/720 - they consume as little power as a QVGA device.

The same stands for GPU - this isn't desktop hardware, these GPU's are both much slower and much less power-hungry than their desktop counterparts.

These are backed up by my (numerous and thorough) battery consumption tests - see for example this here at PPCT.
 
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:47 PM
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I think that my O2 Xda exec has it's days numbered. Although, I am really not feeling that fact that this thing does not have a hardware KeyBoard, but if it slim enough, I can definately live with that. I live in the USA as other mentioned that they do too, so I will definately be importing this device. MORE PICTURES PLEASE!
 
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:55 PM
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Isn't it a fake? I've never seen such an upper toolbar! :roll:
Yeah, that's interesting. Does anyone know anything about that?
 
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:58 PM
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Yeah, the cheapo (and not very good) screen was one of the reasons they were able to offer it for so cheap;
The iPaq 4700, best VGA screen EVER

Actually, the Universal had a pretty decent VGA screen too. While the device in this thread looks good, I would have been happy with an updated Universal. Add quad band, EDGE and USA-compatible UTMS bands (or create a CDMA EVDO version), upgrade wifi to b/g and Bluetooth to 2.0 and you got a great device that will still be good 3 or 4 years from now. Go a little further and bump the processor to 600MHZ and add a GPS chip. A new Universal with these specs would have been killer.

Of course, the $2000 price tag and the nulcear battery needed to power the above mentioned Universal might have been a sticking point
 
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