[Dom]

As an early adopter of .NET for Pocket PC (out soon) I've found that this flagship product runs far slower at times on XScale. Since MS has invested Billions in .NET and the mobile version simply can't afford the tag of "it's slow" then my guess is .... it's going to be much faster ! Bottle necks can compound themselves so that even a small bottleneck causes massive problems with traffic due to the knock on affect. Funny now but ten years ago I had a job looking at a mainframe computer screen looking for bottlenecks LOL. If you got one and missed it then it could ruin the whole night's work. Cost 12 Million originally but think my Pocket PC is probably more powerful and it doesn't require water cooling :0) Still roll on the 1.3Ghz Samsung :0).

[Dom]

As an early adopter of .NET for Pocket PC (out soon) I've found that this flagship product runs far slower at times on XScale. Since MS has invested Billions in .NET and the mobile version simply can't afford the tag of "it's slow" then my guess is .... it's going to be much faster ! Bottle necks can compound themselves so that even a small bottleneck causes massive problems with traffic due to the knock on affect. Funny now but ten years ago I had a job looking at a mainframe computer screen looking for bottlenecks LOL. If you got one and missed it then it could ruin the whole night's work. Cost 12 Million originally but think my Pocket PC is probably more powerful and it doesn't require water cooling :0) Still roll on the 1.3Ghz Samsung :0).

[vincentsiaw]

so what improvement this new xscale chip offer to end user in simplistic form :?:

[Dom]

Any application that is currently pushing the CPU to the limits should appear quite a bit faster with a doubling of bus speed. Video, database intensive apps etc.

[ppcsurfr]

New Bus speed!
New Bus speed!

Please... be true!

All I want is a 50% Bus speed... 400MHz CPU clock speed > 200MHz Bus Speed.

[JMountford]

What a crock of crap....

Why fix it? Why not just make a newer faster one?
ODMs have to add the damn thing either way. Either way the ODMs have to get shippments of the new chips. Either way I am sure the customer will get skrewed somehow, (we always do). Just get Samsung to finish their ARM chip allready or Motorola even. I would love to see some companies put the screw to Intel.

[ombu]

Hmmmm....................................................
I smell something.....................why every and each new PPC released in the last months runs on a "flaw loaded" XScale? Why does Intel a pre-pre-pre-release of a better XScale? ( ops: Stupid me, it's the bus speed!!!) .NET talking everywhere, well, spring is coming (where did I read this? :roll: ), be aware, major changes are coming............just hope s/w developers will make it fast. So get on your knees and pray.....

:lol: It's just a joke! Is it? 8O

[dilta]

The new Xscale CPU may be twice as fast as the current Xscale CPU at the same clock speed and consume about half of the power compared with the old ones.

The 200MHz bus is also fully-implemented by the Pocket PC OEM on the next-generation devices, therefore you can get all the expected speed boost.

BTW... the write back function is officially enabled, if you know what it is..

[Dom]

I believe there were problems with write back and also running 400 Mhz machines at 400 Mhz LOL. Current 400 Mhz machines only occasionally run at 400 Mhz. This new chip is fantastic news. If there's even a 50% speed increase it will make a massive difference to the likes of Quake etc on Pocket PC, video, more effective speech recognition and most games. Maybe the PR disaster that was XScale is finally over. Sure remember that sinking feeling when I switched my XScale on and it was slower LOL. PLEASE can we get more info. Is it 6 months away ? I can't wait....

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by smittyofdhs

Also think about this...what about those poor people who just bought an xscale device thinking it would be faster, and now Intel puts out another chip that actually ends up faster. End result = tons of pissed of users....

And what if there was an actual bug in the CPU that was on par with the Intel floating point error? Some sort of hardware flaw that might be causing performance issues? Hmm.... 8O

[dilta]

It is said that the first product equipped with a new Xscale processor will be released within 2~3 months.

(hopefully CASSIOPEIA E-3000 will debut at first?!?!)