[whydidnt]

Seems like a very nice upgrade, I would probably even be willing to upgrade too, even without the built-in keyboard, if they hadn't decided to skimp on memory. Come-on manufacturers ---- if you're going to build a high end device, outfit it for the high end market!! :twisted:

My normal rant here---they want us to spend $800 for a high-end device but leave the included memory the same as every low-end device shipped in the last 2 years! That would be like Dell selling their latest XPS extreme gaming machine with 256 MB of RAM and a 30 GB HD. What am missing with the memory on WM devices. Does the OS have an inherent problem dealing with more than 128-256 MB of ROM? Flash Memory is soooo cheap these day, cost can't be the only factor. :devilboy:

[whydidnt]

Seems like a very nice upgrade, I would probably even be willing to upgrade too, even without the built-in keyboard, if they hadn't decided to skimp on memory. Come-on manufacturers ---- if you're going to build a high end device, outfit it for the high end market!! :twisted:

My normal rant here---they want us to spend $800 for a high-end device but leave the included memory the same as every low-end device shipped in the last 2 years! That would be like Dell selling their latest XPS extreme gaming machine with 256 MB of RAM and a 30 GB HD. What am missing with the memory on WM devices. Does the OS have an inherent problem dealing with more than 128-256 MB of ROM? Flash Memory is soooo cheap these day, cost can't be the only factor. :devilboy:

[palur]

am I missing something?
What is the screen size?
Does it have USB host capabilities?
I am quite happy with Eten M600+. ROM is sturdy.
Thanks

[happyloman]

I own an ETEN G500 -- and was very satisfied with it for the first 6 MONTHS.

It has now deteriorated to the point where I have to reboot AFTER 10 MINUTES OF USE (NO THAT IS NOT AN EXXAGGERATION).

The 800 is very tempting though... dare I get burned again?

[Nightflyer]

Wow! Really a nice phone, at least concerning the specs. the overall design seems to be ok so far, but the red colour around the camera lense is like pain in the eye for me. Besides of that you have to admit that E-TEN really has a winner here.


I just can't stop wondering what HTC is doing. I think they've really been innovative over the last years and always were ahead of basically all other manufactors. They really deserve the position they have in the market today.

But when I look at their product lineup for this year, I'm really so disappointed. It is the first time they are behind their competitors, and they are ways behind of them.
I mean look at the upcoming devices not only of E-TEN, but also of i-Mate, Toshiba and Nokia (I love the E90 and it's the first time I am interested in a S60 device). And then there is this omnipotent iPhone that HTC has to compete with, though it is adressed to another range of customers, I think it will still steal HTC some market share.

So far it seems as if HTC doesn't even plan to release a VGA device (ok there's the Athena but...), which is a must for a 2007-highend-smartphone. I don't understand why after years of pushing technology, they are clearly lacking innovations these days.
I heard rumors about a Universal-successor that is smaller in size. I hope these are true or that HTC has some surprises they will come up with.


Otherwise they will definetly have a hard year...
Please HTC show me you can produce a VGA device that has decent dimensions!!? Can anybody tell me why it seems like HTC can't compete with all these new phones coming up?!!?

[ADBrown]

Originally Posted by ricksfiona

Looks like a joystick to me...

Since it's WCDMA, it won't work on T-Mo. Correct? The design is a little on the geeky side for me though...

WCDMA is another name for UMTS/HSDPA. It will work on T-Mobile, but you probably won't get the advantage of T-Mo's 3G network when they turn it on, because of a lack of support for the 1700/2100 MHz bands.

[saru83]

awesome phone, but end of summer? too late.. a lot of stuff will be out by then..

[macattack]

Originally Posted by Dyvim

I don't know much about official support because I bought an unlocked ETEN M600 from one of the importers, but I found plenty of user support over at eten-users.net

ETEN certainly did put out quite a lot of ROM revisions for the M600. A lot more revisions than I've seen from other manufacturers. Some might have been not so great, but the 230 ROM solved most of my issues.

For nine months I lived at eten-users.net. It doesn't take much of a search to find others who had lots of trouble: screen alignment, backup batteries, earpiece volume, echo, sketchy reception, etc., etc. Among those who had to send a device in for repair (like me), I think you'll find the experience was generally horrendous. One poor guy waited for over 9 weeks to get his repair back from Taiwan! After sending mine in for the continually misaligned screen digitizer, I decided to just deal with the dead backup battery when it became an issue.

I agree that there were a plethora of ROM upgrades. The potential for a continually improved device was one of my initial motivations in getting the ETEN. Unfortunately, some of the more serious issues were never adequately addressed and most of the early (pre 215) upgrades only swapped one set of troubles for another.

I'm glad you've had a good experience, and perhaps ETEN will improve (or maybe already has improved) the quality of their components, materials, and support. But I'm not going to spend anything close to another $630 on a device that doesn't have a solid track record.

[pocketpcadmirer]

Originally Posted by palur

What is the screen size?

Thats exactly no one talked about. I dont want a 2.8" VGA display

[saru83]

Originally Posted by pocketpcadmirer

Thats exactly no one talked about. I dont want a 2.8" VGA display

seems to me 2.8".. its pictured right beside the X500 in the following picture & seems to share the same screen size of 2.8", check it out

http://www.engadget.com/photos/e-ten...erty-1/185263/

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by pocketpcadmirer

Thats exactly no one talked about. I dont want a 2.8" VGA display

I'd be happy with 2.8". Nothing beats a display that's as crisp as fried chicken.