[ctitanic]

Originally Posted by rob_ocelot

That's actually what I *like* about Toshiba.

From where I'm coming people say that "The World to be World has to be in the way it's now" or "That's why colors are different so people can chose the one they like."

In my case I hate to be Guinea Pig and Toshiba is a company that likes to use users like Guinea Pig, they did it with e740 and they did it again with the e800.

But ... we are off topico already

[ctitanic]

Originally Posted by rob_ocelot

That's actually what I *like* about Toshiba.

From where I'm coming people say that "The World to be World has to be in the way it's now" or "That's why colors are different so people can chose the one they like."

In my case I hate to be Guinea Pig and Toshiba is a company that likes to use users like Guinea Pig, they did it with e740 and they did it again with the e800.

But ... we are off topico already

[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by rob_ocelot

What the hell is up with the start up time for WM2003 SE after a warm reset?! It's gotta be topping 2 minutes of blank screen with not even a swirling icon or something. I thought I had bricked the PDA. It's going to make changing resolutions a real pain.

Ah - it's not just me! Thank goodness. In my case, it wasn't quite 2 minutes, but a solid minute or so... :|

I'm thinking that the QVGA mode will disappear in a future revision. All it does it remind E800 owners or demonstrate to new SE-equipped VGA PDA ownsers just how god-awful the E800's native QVGA mode was.

Agreed, mostly, although for some games it might be faster to run it in QVGA than to do pixel-doubling as part of SE's VGA mode.

--janak

[rob_ocelot]

Originally Posted by Janak Parekh

Ah - it's not just me! Thank goodness. In my case, it wasn't quite 2 minutes, but a solid minute or so... :|

Agreed, mostly, although for some games it might be faster to run it in QVGA than to do pixel-doubling as part of SE's VGA mode.

--janak

The wait is closer to a minute (yet it seems longer) -- I suspect the 'watched pot' explanation works here

I wonder though if the allegations that SE on the e800 was running slower than WM2003 stem from this wait. Everything else in SE seems to run just as fast, if not a tad speedier compared to running in VGA with MyVGA. That delay at the startup though sure smacks of something just not optimised on either M$'s or Toshiba's part. Are X30 users experiencing the same delay?

I'm using the Canadian version of the ROM but I take it that the Eueo and the US version are exactly the same. Anyone do a checksum on them yet?

Good point about SE pixel doubling slowing down some games. Almost any game that forces it's own landscape orientation by default will have some SE problems I suspect.

[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by rob_ocelot

I wonder though if the allegations that SE on the e800 was running slower than WM2003 stem from this wait. Everything else in SE seems to run just as fast, if not a tad speedier compared to running in VGA with MyVGA.

I'm not sure -- menu animations sometimes feel slower, although it's (admittedly) moving more pixels.

I'm using the Canadian version of the ROM but I take it that the Eueo and the US version are exactly the same. Anyone do a checksum on them yet?

I think someone did check the version numbers and they were identical. I haven't seen any other reports at the moment.

--janak

[thooryman]

Does anyone know if the QVGA scaling used for the VGA display on the e800 is pixel doubling (nearest neighbor?) for sure? Just curious if anyone knows if they use bilinear, bicubic, or some other form of scaling.

[gmontielh]

I tried and find it exceptional! 8O Just love it! However, I wish that you could scale the screen for more readable menus and I do not mean just scaling the fonts. While it's great for spreadsheets, is really bad for PI 5.61 (which I use a lot) and no real improvement on PIE screens. And the keyboard input is way too small for comfortable use. Developers following different standards??? I look until every application is compatible with such resolution. True VGA will be really useful once this happens. I agree with members that MS shuld have gone full VGA in the SE release :evil: . Will they improve in their next version, if any? :?: :?: :?: Meanwhile I switched to the standard VGA display until further notice.