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Old 07-26-2004, 11:54 PM
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Default So what about the Text Input Area?

What happens to the text input area when using this add-on program? Is it also reduced in size, as it was with MyVGA?

For me that was the main issue when using MyVGA on an e805 in VGA mode. I was able to get used to the small fonts, but the input area was so small that I had had trouble writing effectively.

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Old 07-27-2004, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: So what about the Text Input Area?

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What happens to the text input area when using this add-on program? Is it also reduced in size, as it was with MyVGA?

For me that was the main issue when using MyVGA on an e805 in VGA mode. I was able to get used to the small fonts, but the input area was so small that I had had trouble writing effectively.

TMann
still somewhat of a problem, but remember you can switch back easily to regular se mode if necessary.
i use Messagease, which works well when expanded, and can be used in the smaller mode too.
Resco Keyboard is another solution.
 
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Old 07-27-2004, 01:26 AM
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What happens to the text input area when using this add-on program? Is it also reduced in size, as it was with MyVGA?

For me that was the main issue when using MyVGA on an e805 in VGA mode. I was able to get used to the small fonts, but the input area was so small that I had had trouble writing effectively.

TMann
still somewhat of a problem, but remember you can switch back easily to regular se mode if necessary.
i use Messagease, which works well when expanded, and can be used in the smaller mode too.
Resco Keyboard is another solution.
Calligrapher also works well with this hack's true VGA mode. The Calligrapher keyboard resizes to a full size keyboard, solving the problem of the teeny tiny default keyboard.
 
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Old 07-27-2004, 03:50 AM
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Just a question:

Since it was never mentioned, I'm guessing you don't need the UNDEAD hack now for VGA mode?

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Old 07-27-2004, 04:13 AM
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Since it was never mentioned, I'm guessing you don't need the UNDEAD hack now for VGA mode?
Correct.

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Old 07-27-2004, 11:40 AM
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Well, I don't think that allways fiddling with the resolution is really the way to go. This just shows that the technology isn't yet mature.

Let's see: we now have 2.8" and 4.0" inch screens. The screen is not standard anymore and with that spec that enables square resolution screens, even worse. We are beginning to have the same resolution problems as desktops do.

Yet, PocketPC screens are TFT's and look best at native resolution. So, the deal here is to give the users the ability to control the OS appearance as you can on a desktop. Give users a predefined set of settings and give them the ability to tweak them. Also, make the apps scalable.

So, you on the 40s can make things like fonts, scrollbars, menus a little bigger and you youngsters can make all the screen widgets real tiny.

And so, forget all those resolution-switch-resets. A sensor for switching landscape/portrait would be great too.

This or set standards for screen size and study a resolution compromise to fit all needs.
 
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Old 07-27-2004, 04:25 PM
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Well, I don't think that allways fiddling with the resolution is really the way to go. This just shows that the technology isn't yet mature.
Oh, absolutely. But it's still useful that we have workarounds until the technology does mature.

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Old 07-27-2004, 04:33 PM
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Well, I don't think that allways fiddling with the resolution is really the way to go. This just shows that the technology isn't yet mature.
Oh, absolutely. But it's still useful that we have workarounds until the technology does mature.

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That's the part that I hate about Toshiba... it's the first always releasing untested properly technology. :evil:
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Old 07-27-2004, 06:56 PM
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Well, I don't think that allways fiddling with the resolution is really the way to go. This just shows that the technology isn't yet mature.
Oh, absolutely. But it's still useful that we have workarounds until the technology does mature.

--janak
That's the part that I hate about Toshiba... it's the first always releasing untested properly technology. :evil:
That's actually what I *like* about Toshiba.

Invariably the solutions that come from the OEM are either too kludgy or just half-assed -- Toshiba's VGA solution for WM2003 involved making part of the screen dead so you couldnt access the start menu! Toshiba's solution was so crap (and the native QVGA mode on the 4" e800 screen looked like over contrasted pixely garbage with scan lines) that it inspired people to do better than Toshiba. Such an amazing device and such poor understanding of the machine's real strengths (from a user and marketing perspective) on Toshiba's part.

And so we get solutions like the Deadzone hack, Padrot, and MyVGA. I'd rather have a choice of doing it differently than no choice at all.


BTW this new solutoin for WM2003 works great, espeically in 640 x 480 right handed landscape which always seemed to be a problem for MyVGA (variable results on different E800's and very flickery). I assume the retail version will allow you to really play with the fonts and probably enlarge the onscreen keyboard.

My only complaints: (mostly about SE)

What the hell is up with the start up time for WM2003 SE after a warm reset?! It's gotta be topping 2 minutes of blank screen with not even a swirling icon or something. I thought I had bricked the PDA. It's going to make changing resolutions a real pain.

For some reason the hack to use cleartype in landscape mode disappears sometimes after a soft reset (and it seems to happen more often if you reset from landcape mode). This may be a problem more with the hack itself rather than a VGA issue.

I'm kinda hesitant to realign the screen digitizer real VGA mode lest the alignment be messed up if I droped to SE VGA

I'm thinking that the QVGA mode will disappear in a future revision. All it does it remind E800 owners or demonstrate to new SE-equipped VGA PDA ownsers just how god-awful the E800's native QVGA mode was.
 
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Old 07-27-2004, 07:03 PM
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For some reason the hack to use cleartype in landscape mode disappears sometimes after a soft reset (and it seems to happen more often if you reset from landcape mode). This may be a problem more with the hack itself rather than a VGA issue.
Everytime you soft reset the OS (Microsoft) changes the registry key for this trick back to disable the cleartype. Basically what I did in a freeware that is available at my site www.pc-counselor.com/downloads.htm is to create a little exe to be copied in the Startup folder to reverse this process after every soft reset.
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