[mpaquette]

I'd pay $10 for it. At $24 I won't even bother installing it because unless it makes my coffee in the morning, it isn't worth it.

When many users get their subsidized phones for next to nothing, I think it's a stretch for Opera to think the average user is going to pony up $24 for some software.

[mpaquette]

I'd pay $10 for it. At $24 I won't even bother installing it because unless it makes my coffee in the morning, it isn't worth it.

When many users get their subsidized phones for next to nothing, I think it's a stretch for Opera to think the average user is going to pony up $24 for some software.

[alese]

For me the problem is not the price, but the fact that when you buy the SW it's locked to a device.

I have bought Opera Mobile for my HTC Universal and on the VGA screen the browsing experience was quite good - definatelly much better than PIE. It wasn't perfect but for WM world incredible - using PIE you really lower your standards and expectations...

What pissed me off was when I tried to install the thing on my new phone and I found out that the registration is device based - stupid.
Now I use PIE if I really need to go to the net or Opera Mini when I need half decent browsing...

[snowman5373]

I love Opera on my Dash compared to PIE. PIE was much better before I upgraded to WM6.

[buzzard]

I use PIE for just about everything except for 2-3 secure sites that Opera mobile can get into that PIE can't access (can't get there using Opera mini on these either). I also have Opera mobile set as my default browser so when I'm reading RSS feeds and I have to go to a full size web site page it's much faster having Opera do it than PIE.

[deavod]

Originally Posted by alese

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What pissed me off was when I tried to install the thing on my new phone and I found out that the registration is device based - stupid.
Now I use PIE if I really need to go to the net or Opera Mini when I need half decent browsing...

FYI, you can email them and have them send you a new key. I did this when I replaced my PocketPC and they sent me a new key in 24 hours.

[Menneisyys]

Originally Posted by acharn

i've tried Opera, but it just isn't easy to use. it's java-based and requires more clicks than i want or even need to give to get the content i want.

wm internet explorer does what it needs to for me. i don't think opera is the best app out there.

i have decided that windows mobile, whatever app, will never be as user friendly as the iphone. it's just all too clunky and cloogy.

1. It's Opera Mini that you're referring to, not Opera Mobile. They're entirely different product, albeit the core is almost the same.

2. Speaking of Opera Mini, no clicks are needed at all if you follow the tips & tricks I've published in the Button Enhancer Bible, which was frontpaged here at SPT some weeks ago. (The same is true with Opera Mobile - my hacks greatly enhance it on Pocket PC's without a dialpad).

[Menneisyys]

Originally Posted by spos5

Also, I've tried Opera Mini & Mobile - just too clunky and suck up a LOT of memory (thanks to J2ME).

Actually, even Mobile has far less memory requiremens than IEM, let alone Mini (I've benchmarked all this and know what I'm talking about.) The latter (Mini) can easily keep as many as 30 (!!!!) pages in memory at the same time. Do the same with IEM. It wouldn't even work on a 128M RAM device

I recommend a quick read to my Smartphone Web Browsing Bible and (the newer) Opera Mini 4-related articles and tips; they have all been cross-posted to the software forums here at SPT.

(BTW, don't mistake the two for each other - Mobile is NOT Java-based.)

[Menneisyys]

Originally Posted by GreatDay

I wish i could tell ya. I'd love to be able to try any one of these (and someday know why i can't) on my Moto Q. IE was bad enough on my old Axim, but on a smartphone it just makes me crazy and makes me only go on the web from it when ABSOLUTELY necessary. So far Deepfish has been the only one I have wished they'd hurry up development on. Word that Mozilla is making a push is encouraging, but the truth is, I want something better NOW. As my grandmother would have said: "If they can put a man on the moon, then why oh why can't we......."

I really recommend giving the just-released Opera Mini 4 a try. It's free, WAY faster and WAY cleaner than IEM. It's a real killer particularly with the latest hacks & enhancements (by me and badbob001 - see (MY) MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH: now, you can use Opera Mini as the system-level Web browser! ) and used together with Opera Link.

I REALLY recommend the following thread on all these: Opera Mini 4: A new star is born - the FREE(!) Web browser you MUST give a try to

[Menneisyys]

Speaking of the Opera Mobile vs. IEM case, I think Opera Mobile certainly deserved a win. Technically, IEM is far-far inferior to Opera Mobile, in almost all parameters. Memory usage, JavaScript, AJAX, keyboard shortcuts, loading times - Opera Mobile is without doubt better.

Albeit, now that Opera Mini 4 is out (along with the hacks & enhancements, partly written / done by me), I recommend it more than Opera Mobile. It really rocks. If you DO give it a try and DO apply the usage enhancement hacks (default browser hack or, if you have a PPC without a dialpad, the hardware button hack), you'll most probably fall in love with it.