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Old 03-09-2010, 04:34 AM
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But if all your software is readily and easily available in Marketplace, what's the problem? Are you concerned about something in particular happening? I've been impressed with Marketplace - when I pick up a new phone, and put in my Windows Live ID, I see the software I've purchased/downloaded and can easily download and install it again. It's fantastic! It's fast and easy, and I don't have to go back to my email, look up a registration number, or worst...email a developer a device ID. This is so much better than the older system, and developers are going to make more $$$ because it will be so much easier for people to buy software.
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Old 03-09-2010, 03:46 PM
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But if all your software is readily and easily available in Marketplace, what's the problem? Are you concerned about something in particular happening?
My problem is that what I bought is stored in a place I do not control. What if MS decides to pull an application? Here it is a quick example: Skype pulled the WM application and it is not available anymore, I have it in my computer and I keep using it.
 
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:46 AM
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My problem is that what I bought is stored in a place I do not control. What if MS decides to pull an application? Here it is a quick example: Skype pulled the WM application and it is not available anymore, I have it in my computer and I keep using it.
I agree that's a possibility, but how often does that happen? The Skype example is a high-profile recent example, but I'm hard pressed to think of another time something like that has happened. It seems like a small fear compared to the advantages that unified marketplace offers.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:59 AM
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I agree that's a possibility, but how often does that happen? The Skype example is a high-profile recent example, but I'm hard pressed to think of another time something like that has happened. It seems like a small fear compared to the advantages that unified marketplace offers.
Well besides Apple pulling and, sometimes, reinstating apps I have some friends who have a Zune subscription and were complaining that songs suddendly disappeared. Granted a subscription to access music is not as buying something but no matter what: to get something from my house you need either an injunction or a burglar, when things are in the
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The issue I have with Marketplace is the same I have with the iPhone: I like to keep the software I buy stored on our server not in the so called "cloud".
All my iPhone apps, are stored on my computer (the one I sync with), including apps that are no longer available in the App Store. I think you might be confused about how iPhone and the App Store work (of course this requires 1 sync with your computer after downloading an app direct to your phone to back it up).
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:42 PM
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All my iPhone apps, are stored on my computer (the one I sync with), including apps that are no longer available in the App Store. I think you might be confused about how iPhone and the App Store work (of course this requires 1 sync with your computer after downloading an app direct to your phone to back it up).
Interesting, how do you do that?
I briefly used a 3G iPhone and, depending what the iPhone 4 will offer, buy another one.
I bought PocketInformant and I did not see an option to store the app on my computer.
Granted I did not jailbreak it because I bought it in Europe so it was "officially" SIM free.
If there is an option to store apps on my computer I am definetely considering buy a new one.
 
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Interesting, how do you do that?.
Don't need to be jailbroken. It should just happen automatically when you sync. If you manually manage your device, then you can right-click on your device in the lefthand tree in iTunes and select "Transfer Purchases" and that should copy any media (including Apps) you downloaded on the phone back to iTunes. You can see all your locally stored apps in the Apps section of iTunes.

Most of the time I actually manage my apps from iTunes and not from the phone since we have 4 iPhones in my family, so I download and upgrade my apps from iTunes on the desktop and then each phone is updated with latest apps the next time it syncs.

Another nice thing about desktop syncing is every sync backs up your device, which includes all your apps and all their data. So that in case you need to restore (even to a new device) you'll get your phone back exactly the way it was, including all app-specific data.
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Interesting, how do you do that?...I bought PocketInformant and I did not see an option to store the app on my computer.
When you sync with iTunes, it syncs the apps over. My iPod Touch does that. And so does my Zune HD. The Zune software hides the apps unfortunately in user/app data/local/microsoft/zune/applications, but all the little app files are there - and you'll work with them using the Zune desktop software, not at the Windows Explorer level. I'd expect Windows phone 7 to work in a very similar fashion in terms of downloading the apps to the PC when you sync with the Zune software.
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Thanks to both of you; I reinstated the iPhone 4 among the candidates for my HD2 successor........ :-)
 
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:03 AM
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I am disappointed with what I have seen so far.

I do not like the new home screen. In my opinion, I think HTC could have come up with a better look. I will keep an open mind and see how things progress, but it seems the home screen isn't going to change much from what we have seen.

The programs screen wastes too much screen real estate. I guess everyone hammered them on the honeycomb look and they changed it again.

It will be interesting IMO to see how Google progresses in the next year. I think they have a better design now than what Windows Phone is planning on launching. Let the users configure the look how they want.

Maybe I am just venting. I have been a loyal windows mobile/pocket pc fan since 2000. From what I have seen so far, I may be jumping ship.
 
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