[encece]

I've just decided never to use Flash on webpages again. NEVER!
I've been using an "evaluation" version and have been debating whether or not to buy the newest release. The price is waaaaay to high. I can never see how anyone spends that kind of money on an application.

Now the Player costs $500???!!!

Sure Flash give you almost unlimited creative ability on websites. But I never used much animation. I'm done with it. Goodbye Flash...hello HTML, JavaScript, CSS, etc!

[encece]

I've just decided never to use Flash on webpages again. NEVER!
I've been using an "evaluation" version and have been debating whether or not to buy the newest release. The price is waaaaay to high. I can never see how anyone spends that kind of money on an application.

Now the Player costs $500???!!!

Sure Flash give you almost unlimited creative ability on websites. But I never used much animation. I'm done with it. Goodbye Flash...hello HTML, JavaScript, CSS, etc!

[Duncan]

Originally Posted by Darius Wey

I guess if you had to "un-bookmark" a page, then this would be it then: http://www.2advanced.com/

:lol:

Perfect example of the work of the designers who should be tarred and feather and exiled to a desert island without a computer.

No Flash based page gets bookmarked by me. If there is a non-Flash alternative - I use that. If they insist on giving me Flash then they have nothing useful to say to me. Flash is for the lazy designer and the easily impressed client and is the worst of all internet technologies.

Someone tell me in what way we would be worse off if Flash had never been developed? Not that it can't be used for good - but it must always be an add-on not a necessity.

[ctitanic]

Wow! Duncan you are exagerating!
Macromedia is a good tool to create little animated movies!

[Gerard]

GIF is better for compatibility of simple animations, though lack of an audio component and interactivity are obvious drawbacks. Now that Conduits' Pocket Artist has decent animated GIF authoring I'm not much concerned whether there is ever to be Flash authoring for the PPC.

As for the PIE plugln; it's amusing, at times useful... but nothing I'd really miss. And since Í have the CAB file kicking around it's not like the situation is difficult. Seems likely anyone asking for it in a forum would get lots of responses, legal or not.

Macromedia has made lame decisions before. One of the dumbest, in my opinion, was to provide a nice standalone player/projector generator for Casio devices through MyCasio.com, for members (free registration) only. That's long-since withdrawn, and they never released an ARM version. Lame. Of course, I still have the MIPS CAB.

[Duncan]

Originally Posted by ctitanic

Wow! Duncan you are exagerating!
Macromedia is a good tool to create little animated movies!

No - I'm really not.

Would the lack of 'little animated' Flash movies make the internet experience any the poorer? We'd still have WMV/MPEG/QT/animated GIFs etc. Menus can be animated better, faster and with more universal compatibility via JS, DHTML etc.

I'll say it again - Flash is the tool of the lazy designer and dumb client.

[Gerard]

But; lots of big studios doing animation for TV are slipping into Flash. It's easier to work with than 3D CGI stuff. My brother's been delving into it, somewhat reluctantly, after 10 years in a couple of the biggest animation companies. He points to teams 1/5 the size or less to develop feature length content, and relatively miniscule requirements equipment-wise. It's also much more readily scaleable than 3D stuff.

I thought Flash was moving towards universal presence in mobile devices. Wha' happened?

[ctitanic]

Originally Posted by Duncan

No - I'm really not.

Would the lack of 'little animated' Flash movies make the internet experience any the poorer? We'd still have WMV/MPEG/QT/animated GIFs etc. Menus can be animated better, faster and with more universal compatibility via JS, DHTML etc.

I'll say it again - Flash is the tool of the lazy designer and dumb client.

wow, Duncan... are you calling me dumb client?!

[Gerard]

Whoa! I just read the Macromedia PPC FAQ and it says:

Was the Standalone Macromedia Flash Player 6 for Pocket PC 2003 available previously?
No, Macromedia has never produced a Standalone player for the Pocket PC before.

While appreciating that the 'question' references PPC2003, the 'answer' is a damned lie, as per my previous mention of the free MIPS standalone player which had/has a 'generate projector' option.

[mscdex]

No need to worry, you can still download the flash 6 player for pocketpc 2003 from their site here.

[ctitanic]

Originally Posted by Duncan

No - I'm really not.

Would the lack of 'little animated' Flash movies make the internet experience any the poorer? We'd still have WMV/MPEG/QT/animated GIFs etc. Menus can be animated better, faster and with more universal compatibility via JS, DHTML etc.

I'll say it again - Flash is the tool of the lazy designer and dumb client.

Just play this movie in your PC

{inappropriate content removed - c'mon ctitanic - you know we are a family friendly site :| } - EH.

Note: I do not develope anything in Macromedia.