[hamishmacdonald]

I just removed Flash from my Pocket PC. There's some space back, and one less web page annoyance.

Good riddance.

[hamishmacdonald]

I just removed Flash from my Pocket PC. There's some space back, and one less web page annoyance.

Good riddance.

[nwd]

conduits has a free flash player called pocket spark
http://www.conduits.com/products.asp - bottom of page, there is a new beta on the download page also

[SteveHoward999]

Your front page comment is misleading. The standalone player purchase is for developers and has been available for years. It has never been designed as a consumer download.

I too will be chasing more information from Macromedia. As a long-term user of their development tools, I think this is rediculous!

[stevelam]

:rotfl:

*Checks watch*

*Relises the date*

Hang on this isnt April 1st. What are they doing.

*Thinks*

Hang on this is just mean. They gain market dominence and then milk it for all its worth. I will now be lobbying for unistallation of all Macromedia products that I can find. We must strike back. I'll bring the pitchforks!!!

*Growls menacingly*

[ctitanic]

Originally Posted by nwd

conduits has a free flash player called pocket spark
http://www.conduits.com/products.asp - bottom of page, there is a new beta on the download page also

BTW, that's not compatible with WM5. It install a new PIE plugin that is not compatible with PIE at all.

[Sven Johannsen]

Originally Posted by SteveHoward999

Your front page comment is misleading. The standalone player purchase is for developers and has been available for years. It has never been designed as a consumer download.

Not entirely. As it appears that they are withdrawing the PIE plugin as a download, if you want a flash player on your PPC you are going to have to buy the 'developer' version at $499. Even that though doesn't seem to support flash in web pages, but is rather a standalone viewer.

It does appear they are making a PIE plugin available to OEMs, and some have bundled it, but developing for mobile web pages at this point will have to be done with the realization that flash will not be universally supported, and adding the support will not be free, or maybe even possible, for the consumer.

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by SteveHoward999

Your front page comment is misleading. The standalone player purchase is for developers and has been available for years. It has never been designed as a consumer download.

I know it has been available for years. My point is that without a free Flash player for consumers to download, it seems the only option left is a standalone player that costs $499 - and that in turn will provide unrestricted access to Flash on one's Pocket PC. I well and truly understand that it's a developer tool, but what's left for consumers? Diddly-squat.

To assume that all this isn't a problem because developers will package Flash as part of their self-running application is a little misguided - because there is so much other Flash content out there that will not work off this principle.

Edit: And all of what Sven said as well.

[ignar]

Originally Posted by Duncan

Excellent news...!

Now - let's hope they follow this up by removing the free download for desktop browsers too. Then maybe the morons who insist on putting bloody flash intros on their websites will stop it and people will stop building aggravating websites using nothing but Flash.

:way to go: My wish exactly.

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by ignar

:way to go: My wish exactly.

I guess if you had to "un-bookmark" a page, then this would be it then: http://www.2advanced.com/

:lol:

[SL33PYH34D]

Originally Posted by Duncan

Excellent news...!

Now - let's hope they follow this up by removing the free download for desktop browsers too. Then maybe the morons who insist on putting bloody flash intros on their websites will stop it and people will stop building aggravating websites using nothing but Flash.

Here, here...
Flash has its place, but it's certainly not for building complete websites or annoying intros.