[davea0511]

Just some thoughts...

This really is no different than if all the TV networks suddenly decided without warning that they would all stop broadcasting over the air, so that the only way people could get reception was through a wire (Cable or other means), whereas the networks would then soak the cable companies for an outrageous fee.

Like TV networks, Macromedia is profitable, and has been making good money on their existing revenue model. This move was motivated by pure-selfish greed.

People: Start making donations to an Open Source Flash project (with your time, thoughts, money, or just encouragement)...
http://www.osflash.org/doku.php?id=o...flash_projects

Pick the one that fits your needs the best. If Macromedia won't be a good steward of the widest Scalable Vector format, after pretending that it would, let us find someone who will.

We trusted them when we bought and used their tools. Web designers trusted them when they bought and used their tools. Users everywhere trusted them when they became dependent on websites that used their tools. They violated that trust.

How does one file a complaint with the FTC?

[davea0511]

Just some thoughts...

This really is no different than if all the TV networks suddenly decided without warning that they would all stop broadcasting over the air, so that the only way people could get reception was through a wire (Cable or other means), whereas the networks would then soak the cable companies for an outrageous fee.

Like TV networks, Macromedia is profitable, and has been making good money on their existing revenue model. This move was motivated by pure-selfish greed.

People: Start making donations to an Open Source Flash project (with your time, thoughts, money, or just encouragement)...
http://www.osflash.org/doku.php?id=o...flash_projects

Pick the one that fits your needs the best. If Macromedia won't be a good steward of the widest Scalable Vector format, after pretending that it would, let us find someone who will.

We trusted them when we bought and used their tools. Web designers trusted them when they bought and used their tools. Users everywhere trusted them when they became dependent on websites that used their tools. They violated that trust.

How does one file a complaint with the FTC?

[ctitanic]

A guy from Macromedia has replied

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/we...VIEWTMP=Linear

Of course they keep talking about the developers tool failing to see that users care about the PIE Add-in.

Here is his full article (including his picture) :

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/dev...c_removal.html

[Mobile Mike]

Someone from Macromedia just sent me this:

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/dev..._kits.html#ppc

<EDIT>
I have no idea why he sent this, I just checked it, and it not the player.

[ctitanic]

Originally Posted by Mobile Mike

Someone from Macromedia just sent me this:

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/dev..._kits.html#ppc

<EDIT>
I have no idea why he sent this, I just checked it, and it not the player.

exactly, just pdf files and some info... nothing good at all.

[Magallanes]

Originally Posted by gt24

Macromedia has one huge problem with this new approach to the mobile market... it has been kinda talked about, but not directly.

The player can be removed from user download... OEMs can be asked to buy licenses... blah blah blah... but, ultimately, it was the developers of Flash content that got kicked in the teeth.

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Flash Player 6 for Pocket PC Distribution Kit enables developers and publishers to quickly and easily deploy Macromedia Flash content and Rich Internet Applications for Pocket PC devices. Developers can also deploy standalone Macromedia Flash applications using the Flash Player 6 for Pocket PC Distribution Kit
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COST $499 for kit.

So, you can still continue in the business.. just you must buy this "quite cheap" kit.

[Gerard]

For some content providers, sure, this projector authoring option is viable. However, for end users who would like to access functionality in web pages which is presented as Flash components, this is simply crippling.

As has already been discussed, those who already possess the downloaded free ActiveX plugin will have no problems. The difficulty arises with new purchasers of PPC devices, most of whom will simply discover a lack of Flash functionality when online and who will not be very likely to discover illegal download sites (if any even exist yet).

I wrote to Macromedia's Bill Perry about this, and his response was as nebulous and silly as what he posted on the official site. Essentilly they are telling us that they are listening, but that the plugin is only available on a select few devices for which it was licensed. Hardly a solution, for now. Maybe in a year or two all WM devices will have Flash support in ROM... but for now only 7 do, and only a couple of those are not end-of-life models.

I'd recommend that anyone needing Flash support for access to some sites consider purchasing NetFront, which apparently supports Flash without the plugin.

[ctitanic]

Bill Perry said in his article that the main reason was incompatibility with WM5 but when I said in Macromedia forum that the plug-in was tested by me in WM5 and it was ok, he replied in that same forum that he never had tested the plug-in in WM5. :|

[ctitanic]

Macromedia player is back online guys!

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/we...&enterthread=y

[Gerard]

Interesting indeed. Seems Macromedia was actually willing to listen and change their decision, and the common sense prevailed. Congratulations are in order, both to the PPC using community and to developers. And also to Macromedia, for being a responsive and hence responsible corporate citizen. I wish them well in further tweaking their business model and products.