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Old 08-06-2005, 02:44 AM
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Look at this secret screen capture of the future Pocketpcthoughts forum I've discovered in an open directory. It only available to subscribers.
Hmm, I don't know. Somehow I'm not quite convinced.
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Old 08-06-2005, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: Treo Running Windows Mobile

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No one wants PalmOS6, aka Cobalt...
Really? Go reread the source's original posts. He states that a Cobalt model is also being readied.

If this rumor's true, it lends more credibility to that one as well. Just because Palm is going to offer a WM option, doesn't mean the Palm OS option is going away.

But then again, Ed never really seemed one to get caught up in the details when there was FUD to be spread.
I'm pretty sure the palm os is dead...no more development and no more devices using it.

A lot of people have 650's where I work and their reception is much weaker than that of a normal mobile phone. I don't think this will sweep the windows mobile phone industry but I'm usually wrong.
Palmos Cobalt development is dead, or rather suspended. But PalmSource is still developing Palm Linux whcih is basically Cobalt API's over Linux Kernal. Also, Palm definitely will continue to release palmOS based devices in the future. Afterall they just resigned their lisencing agreement with PalmSource through 2009! Plus there are a host of smartphone venders like GSL/Oswin, Samsung, LG, Kyocera, Qtech etc that sell or are developing palmos devices. So no PalmOS is not dead...yet.

Anyway, I willing to bet Palm releases a Cobalt ver of the next gen Treo is before the WM version...
 
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Old 08-06-2005, 04:44 AM
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Well, I guess I look like an idiot so I mine as well continue. I don't think it matters if the picture is doctored or not...I'm betting the thing will really come out with windows moble. Why would they not. I'm pretty sure palm source doesn't exist anymore (I thought you'd like that statment!) and if the os they're developing uses a unix kernal it's not palm os no matter what they may call it. I think they're no more likly to release a linux/unix based treo then a windows mobile treo. They'd have to be more stupid than I apparently am to release another treo with palm os on it. They're had enough problems with it trying to get wifi and bluetooth to work with the stupid things and I can say as a fact that the reception is worse then a normal phone with the same service provider based on what we've seen at work.
 
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Old 08-06-2005, 05:53 AM
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Well, I guess I look like an idiot so I mine as well continue. I don't think it matters if the picture is doctored or not...I'm betting the thing will really come out with windows moble. Why would they not. I'm pretty sure palm source doesn't exist anymore (I thought you'd like that statment!) and if the os they're developing uses a unix kernal it's not palm os no matter what they may call it. I think they're no more likly to release a linux/unix based treo then a windows mobile treo. They'd have to be more stupid than I apparently am to release another treo with palm os on it. They're had enough problems with it trying to get wifi and bluetooth to work with the stupid things and I can say as a fact that the reception is worse then a normal phone with the same service provider based on what we've seen at work.
HUH? FYI, PalmOS has gone through something like 4 different kernals in it's history. I doubt the average user would know or even care about this, but it never affected the perception or identity of the PalmOS. Thus your agruement is flawed. Palm OS Linux will be good for lisencees and hardware devs. However it's up to PalmSource whether they will be able to deliver it in time before their oblivion or obselescence, which ever comes first...

Also, the current Treo 650 is selling gangbusters fyi unless you've been living under a rock...or perhaps just hanging out around pptcs too much. An updated next gen treo perhaps Cobalt based would sell very well. In fact if Palm actually did release a WM Treo, they might the might the best selling WM and PalmOS smartphones BOTH! 8O
 
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Old 08-06-2005, 09:58 AM
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You guys are such optimisitc fools. WM is both better AND more popular.

If the WM Treo gets all the cool apps, is more stable and works better with exchange the users WILL decide for Palm which OS to continue and which one to discontinue. If 70% of their customers go for WM, will they keep supporting POS for the other 30%.

Just think. The WM users will actually be able to view PDF attachments natively! They will be able to get hotmail in their inbox. They will get a pile of brilliant games and emulators with Dirext X support. They will be able to use any WIFI SDIO card! On the Palm side.. what?

No matter what Palm's intentions are, if they release a WM Treo the writing will be on the wall for POS.

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Old 08-06-2005, 12:12 PM
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I would definately get one of these if it is true.
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:27 PM
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someone used this image here on Smartphonedubai
That screenshot was stolen from Pocketnow's Windows Mobile 5 preview. I'm glad I blurred out my phone numbers.
 
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:30 PM
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What about this fake pic. The guy who photoshopped it left the Treo 650s antenna shadow in :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:36 PM
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Well, I guess I look like an idiot so I mine as well continue. I don't think it matters if the picture is doctored or not...I'm betting the thing will really come out with windows moble. Why would they not. I'm pretty sure palm source doesn't exist anymore (I thought you'd like that statment!) and if the os they're developing uses a unix kernal it's not palm os no matter what they may call it. I think they're no more likly to release a linux/unix based treo then a windows mobile treo. They'd have to be more stupid than I apparently am to release another treo with palm os on it. They're had enough problems with it trying to get wifi and bluetooth to work with the stupid things and I can say as a fact that the reception is worse then a normal phone with the same service provider based on what we've seen at work.
HUH? FYI, PalmOS has gone through something like 4 different kernals in it's history. I doubt the average user would know or even care about this, but it never affected the perception or identity of the PalmOS. Thus your agruement is flawed. Palm OS Linux will be good for lisencees and hardware devs. However it's up to PalmSource whether they will be able to deliver it in time before their oblivion or obselescence, which ever comes first...

Also, the current Treo 650 is selling gangbusters fyi unless you've been living under a rock...or perhaps just hanging out around pptcs too much. An updated next gen treo perhaps Cobalt based would sell very well. In fact if Palm actually did release a WM Treo, they might the might the best selling WM and PalmOS smartphones BOTH! 8O
As I mentioned, we've got 650's at work. I know they're all over the place.

If you do some research I think you'll find they've never released a major overhall of their kernal/operating system. They were going to at one point but didn't because of backwards compatibility and/or developer support. A linux kernal would be awesome but there are very few apps that would work well at 320x320 for linux....sure ones for the zaurus and a few other linux based pda's but not many. If they loose their apps, they're done. There is so much good software out there for the pocket pc it would be a tough market for anyone to get into. Palm is probably the only one with a chance (to get back in).

Oh well, thanks for the discussion. I'm leaving today for vacation in Canada! Maybe I'll bump into some of you (I know a number of you are from Canada.)
 
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:00 PM
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HUH? FYI, PalmOS has gone through something like 4 different kernals in it's history. I doubt the average user would know or even care about this, but it never affected the perception or identity of the PalmOS.
I thought they just went through 2. The Kadak kernel that is in OS 1-4 and the new ARM kernel that has the Kadak emulator in it (PACE). I know the Kadak kernel was tweaked with each version, but tweaking isn't the same thing as a wholly different kernel. It is like XP. That is the NT kernel that dates back to 1993 when NT 3.1 shipped. Sure, it has been tweaked like crazy, but it is fundamentally the same kernel design.
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