[Darius Wey]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081223PB200.html

"Sony Ericsson plans to outsource its second Windows Mobile-based smartphone to Taiwan-based Mobinnova, a handset maker under Foxconn Electronics (Hon Hai Precision Industry), instead of cooperating with its current production partner High Tech Computer (HTC), according to a Chinese-language Commercial Times report."

For better or worse, Sony Ericsson is said to be switching from HTC to Mobinnova for its Windows Mobile devices. Perhaps the X1, which has hardly been the success story it could have been, has forced Sony Ericsson to look elsewhere.

[Darius Wey]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081223PB200.html

"Sony Ericsson plans to outsource its second Windows Mobile-based smartphone to Taiwan-based Mobinnova, a handset maker under Foxconn Electronics (Hon Hai Precision Industry), instead of cooperating with its current production partner High Tech Computer (HTC), according to a Chinese-language Commercial Times report."

For better or worse, Sony Ericsson is said to be switching from HTC to Mobinnova for its Windows Mobile devices. Perhaps the X1, which has hardly been the success story it could have been, has forced Sony Ericsson to look elsewhere.

[SomeAudioGuy]

Huh...
Not that HC couldn't use a little competition, but who are these guys? All I see on their site is the Ice (a really bad iphone clone). Are they the guys making the new i-Mates?

The X1's issues really just came down to timing. If SE could have gotten the design out the door faster they could've really drummed up some excitement. In the end they delayed too much, and completely underestimated the competition from their own ODM.

It's hard justifying the cost of the Xperia when you can find Touch Pro's for under $400 without a contract, and now around $200 with a two year contract.

[Phillip Dyson]

I honestly don't know what Sony was thinking. Did they really believe they could compete with a $800 device? I don't like to be carrier locked, but its a nearly $600 difference!

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by SomeAudioGuy

Are they the guys making the new i-Mates?

Yep, Mobinnova were behind the Ultimate 8502 and 9502. Unfortunately, they're not exactly stellar in build quality, so I hope for Sony Ericsson's sake, the next XPERIA doesn't end up in the same boat.

[Rob Alexander]

Originally Posted by Phillip Dyson

I honestly don't know what Sony was thinking. Did they really believe they could compete with a $800 device? I don't like to be carrier locked, but its a nearly $600 difference!

They're Sony... of course they think they can charge more than anyone else!

[David Tucker]

Someone has to compete with Apple in the "overpriced hardware" market.

[Phillip Dyson]

Originally Posted by David Tucker

Someone has to compete with Apple in the "overpriced hardware" market.

Perhaps this is why they're switching manufacturers. This Mobinnova may have promised a lower cost off the assembly line.

Sony may thing that if manufacturing costs are cheaper then they can lower the price on their handsets and actually compete.

[Fritzly]

Originally Posted by David Tucker

Someone has to compete with Apple in the "overpriced hardware" market.

But in order to do it they must come out with some hardware/software that is at least as good as the Apple one; The Experia is not...

[David Tucker]

Originally Posted by Fritzly

But in order to do it they must come out with some hardware/software that is at least as good as the Apple one; The Experia is not...

Its not that hard. Come out with half the features. Pick one feature that's been around forever and polish it well and make it seem like you invented it. Voila! You have an Apple product. The Xperia was too feature rich for that, I agree...

[David Tucker]

Originally Posted by Phillip Dyson

Perhaps this is why they're switching manufacturers. This Mobinnova may have promised a lower cost off the assembly line.

Sony may thing that if manufacturing costs are cheaper then they can lower the price on their handsets and actually compete.

Wouldn't surprise me. I don't think HTC did a very good job for them (and honestly I'm starting to think that HTC doesn't do a very good job in general.)