[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by Fritzly

I do not pay SA to Apple or Symbian, I do to MS. this is the difference. I own share of MS and I can assure that they talk a lot about the financial outlook of the company and they do very well in advance.

Software Assurance for Windows Mobile? I've never heard of that, and a quick Google search brings up nothing of the sort. Please tell me more about this, and how it relates to Windows Mobile. By paying SA, are you saying Microsoft gives you Windows Mobile updates?

Regarding Microsoft talking about the financial outlook of the company, my understanding is that they'll talk about how many Windows Mobile licenses they expect to sell in FY08/09, but I'd be surprised if they'd talk about specific features they're adding to the next version of Windows Mobile. I don't know much about what they say to investors other than if they said much to investors about next-generation operating system features, we'd certainly see more of it leaking to the general public.

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by Fritzly

I do not pay SA to Apple or Symbian, I do to MS. this is the difference. I own share of MS and I can assure that they talk a lot about the financial outlook of the company and they do very well in advance.

Software Assurance for Windows Mobile? I've never heard of that, and a quick Google search brings up nothing of the sort. Please tell me more about this, and how it relates to Windows Mobile. By paying SA, are you saying Microsoft gives you Windows Mobile updates?

Regarding Microsoft talking about the financial outlook of the company, my understanding is that they'll talk about how many Windows Mobile licenses they expect to sell in FY08/09, but I'd be surprised if they'd talk about specific features they're adding to the next version of Windows Mobile. I don't know much about what they say to investors other than if they said much to investors about next-generation operating system features, we'd certainly see more of it leaking to the general public.

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by Jason Lee

It would be nice to read SOMETHING on this site that didn't involve a frakin iphone.... Maybe I need to start looking for a new Windows Mobile site...

Rocco's original post didn't mention the iPhone. Subsequent comments by the community have because, frankly, it's not something people can just stick their head in the sand and ignore - especially with the 2nd generation iPhone announcement.

I'd hate to lose you Jason because you've been a strong contributor to this site for a long time, but if you find a Windows Mobile community where the iPhone is never mentioned, it's probably a community of people filled with denial about the threat that the iPhone represents to Windows Mobile. Myself, I like talking about the iPhone in the same way that we used to talk about Palm OS devices - it's important to understand the competition and how Windows Mobile stacks up against it.

[Fritzly]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

Software Assurance for Windows Mobile? .

Actually I was referring to SA for Microsoft software in general; WM is not, unfortunately, available to customers and the lock down on information is affecting all MS departments.
As for talking about next-generation operating system features I can assure you that it is a strategy that worked very well for MS, and shareholders too, until the Longhhorn debacle.

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by Fritzly

As for talking about next-generation operating system features I can assure you that it is a strategy that worked very well for MS, and shareholders too, until the Longhhorn debacle.

I won't argue with you on that point, but the phone marketplace is quite different than the desktop operating system space - far more competitive with more players, and I think more secrecy is required. But I think we disagree on that.

[Rocco Augusto]

Originally Posted by Jason Lee

It would be nice to read SOMETHING on this site that didn't involve a frakin iphone.... Maybe I need to start looking for a new Windows Mobile site...

Sorry Jason, hopefully as the 3G iPhone hype starts to cool down a bit there won't be so much talk about the new Apple devices. Unfortunately as Jason mentioned above, to never mention the iPhone would be like ignoring an 800lbs gorilla that just sat on your lunch. You can pretend that he isn't there but with your lunch stuck to his rump there is just no point.