[Kevin Daly]

Originally Posted by jngold_me

Yeah, I saw that too. However, I think I read somewhere that it will be up to the OEM's to implement it or not.

The OEMs might actually appreciate saving themselves some work: producing a customised update isn't a trivial task.

[Kevin Daly]

Originally Posted by jngold_me

Yeah, I saw that too. However, I think I read somewhere that it will be up to the OEM's to implement it or not.

The OEMs might actually appreciate saving themselves some work: producing a customised update isn't a trivial task.

[timcolling]

Originally Posted by PDADoc

...As much as people might complain about it, my take on it all is this: if you're truly unhappy with the business practices of one company, you can simply go to another with your business; that's what's so great about this world: choice.

Agreed. And that's why HP is no longer a "preferred" vendor for me - I'll go with Dell next time - they're less expensive and more likely to support their customers.

- Tim

[timcolling]

Originally Posted by mmidgley

...My investment in PPC software (like alex_kac's) will now dictate when I buy new hardware, not the OEMs. :evil: I hope they (developers) support PPC2003 for a while longer...

Same goes for me.
- Tim

[echernosky]

Originally Posted by delfuhd

Give me an update for my 2210, and I won't be mad at hp anymore.

I dont give a hoot whether or not it really "needs" it. I was told expandability both with hardware and software was imminent, so hp where the heck is your expansion for my pocket pc that I spent four hundred dollars on?

Dear HP,

I too have been sitting by my mailbox waiting for my 2003SE upgrade disk (I'll pay) for my 2215. Please cancel that order.

Just send me the upgrade for 2005 (I'll pay) and we'll call it even...

Ed

p.s.: Please don't bother trying to sell me a new "upgradeable" device... You're wasting your time.

[Sven Johannsen]

Originally Posted by PDADoc

As the 3000 series is multimedia-centric, it just doesn't fit into the plan.

I don't agree with that characterization of the 3715, though it may be what HP thinks. I see it more like a Media Center PC which is XP plus media enhancements. The 3715 is a fully equipped PPC, PLUS it has significant media capabilities including the camera, Nevo remote control and HPs media commander that lets you easily stream content to your PPC, or control your Media PC over WiFi. To think that folks are not cognizent of or concerned with the business functionality of the 3715, just because they opted for the addition of the media capabilities would be short sighted of HP. Note that at the time, your HP choice was the 4155 and 2215, both on their way out, or the 4700 or 3000 series. The 2700 hadn't come out at that time, the 4700 was pricy, large, and sported that odd touch panel, and the 3700 was a great device with numerous bonuses.

I'm going to be mildly miffed if my 3715 isn't offerred an upgrade, but I will take solace in the fact that my PPCTechs upgraded X50v will.

Now when I find out Motorola is not upgrading my MPX220 you might see some flames :evil:

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

The rx3715 especially - this is a $450 USD device, and no upgrade? HP comes close to delivering the goods to all their customers, then stops short, ignoring 3000 series owners. :?

I can think of another one hundred reasons why I'd look outside the HP circle when shopping for a Pocket PC. It's nice that hx4700 users will get an upgrade ("when" is a question though), but I'm appalled to see high-end rx3000 users get left out in the dark. :roll:

[Sven Johannsen]

Originally Posted by timcolling

Agreed. And that's why HP is no longer a "preferred" vendor for me - I'll go with Dell next time - they're less expensive and more likely to support their customers.

- Tim

Not sure the X3 and X30 owners will share that view of Dell. Yes they upgraded the X5 from 2002 to 2003, but not to SE, and now there is a promise for X50s.

You go back far enough and you'll find every OEM has bright spots and black marks. As has been pointed out, upgradeable is a matter of capability. Every single flashable Pocket PC I've owned has received some form of upgrade. Not everyone has gotten a new OS.

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by KISSONLINEMobile

OK. That's valid. Now, anyone have an email address of someone at HP to whom I can vent my rage? I promise not to use any four-letter words :wink:

You could give it a shot, but I doubt you'd get anywhere. If you were around for the release of WM2003SE, you would have seen many people get emotional about HP not releasing an update for the previous generation of devices. Arguments, petitions and what not all unfolded on these forums, as well as other websites. The end result? Jack.

[Darius Wey]

Originally Posted by PDADoc

As the 3000 series is multimedia-centric, it just doesn't fit into the plan. And Jason, with regard to your statement about it being a $450 device, I say this: so what? The price point of the 3000 is about what most people pay for competing devices that do the same thing, music, videos, etc.

Sven raises a lot of good points that you should keep in mind. Also, the rx3000 series isn't just a multimedia device. It is a Pocket PC, and can perform many of the functions that other Pocket PCs can. HP marketed it as a multimedia device. It had a camera, which the hx4700 did not have, so for some users, they opted for the rx3715 instead of the hx4700. Apart from that, the Nevo package served as something enticing for many users. Windows Mobile 5 builds upon the media experience with improved capabilities in Windows Media 10 Mobile, online services and the Windows Media synchronisation functionality. What rx3000 user should be left out of something that the device is capable of having. I don't own one, but I can certainly feel the pain of those who will miss out on an upgrade to the new OS. This is the primary reason why my support for HP's upgrade policy has dropped to an all-time low. "Dude, I'm getting a Dell".

[mv]

As a 3715 owner, all I can say is ____ (insert here the four letter f word) HP.

:evil: