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Old 11-21-2005, 02:04 PM
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The other step back deals with how the card itself, the hardware, is dealt with. Now, in fairness, I don't know if this is how the HTC devices do it, or how iMate has customized it, or if it is how WM5 itself deals with it. When my devices suspends, it seems the OS loses sight of the card. I have witnessed this with a 1GB SD card in a JasJar and a 1GB minis card in the K-Jam.
Definitely not a problem affecting all Windows Mobile 5.0 devices. My M600 is able to pick up the card coming out of standby - in fact, instantaneously. 8O
That is good to hear. That isn't an HTC device is it?
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:13 PM
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That is good to hear. That isn't an HTC device is it?
Nah, it's one of the very few non-HTC Phone Edition devices.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:26 PM
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The disappearing SD card is not only a WM5 bug IIRC. The fact is that the OS unmounts the card when you turn off the device, and mounts it back when you turn on - and here is the problem, it can not always mount it back correctly or it can not mount it back at all. Also, the applications/games/whatsoever does NOT get told by the OS that the device is turned off when you press the "off" button, nor it gets notized when you turn on the device; your app pretends that nothing happened. Rarely my SD card disappears too under WM2003SE; mostly the app i run and / or an app that reads / writes something from the SD card hangs / gives me errors (yay, tricky sentence.. :P). For example I read a book in uBook, turn off the device, turn on, and i go a few pages forward then i get blank pages. I turn off uBook, reopen it and it can not reopen my ebook at all, i have to go to the open page and reopen it. This is also a reason why I don't keep my bible on the SD card, cause Olivetree biblereader (i had problems with pocket e-sword...) does not likes bibles in SD card too. Once i got an even weirder thing: it _looked_ that the data on my SD card totally messed up (like the FAT got wrong). Fake files with fake filesizes and filenames, fake folders etc...but i did a softreset and everything came back.
 
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:27 PM
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Try changing the following, seems to work for me.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\]
"PNPUnloadDelay"="8192"
"PNPWaitIODelay"="8192"

Allows PocketBible to function after a power cycle for me.

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Old 11-21-2005, 02:58 PM
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. I'd be curious to see how this works with the Dell Axis X50v with the upgrade or the new X51v, or any non-iMate device. If things work great for you in this regard, let me know the size of your storage card. I had a 512MB SD card but I can't find it to test.
I've experienced some problems with my SD getting "lost" after a power off but most of my problems with this have been associated with my CF card. That card, a 512MB SanDisk, is where I store my games and application data (Temporary Internet Files, etc).
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. I'd be curious to see how this works with the Dell Axis X50v with the upgrade or the new X51v, or any non-iMate device. If things work great for you in this regard, let me know the size of your storage card. I had a 512MB SD card but I can't find it to test.
I've experienced some problems with my SD getting "lost" after a power off but most of my problems with this have been associated with my CF card. That card, a 512MB SanDisk, is where I store my games and application data (Temporary Internet Files, etc).
That explains a lot. I stopped using a perfectly good, it now appears, 512meg CF card for this very reason :?
 
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:39 PM
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I'm using a Qtek 9100. Using audible as an example I only see this behavior after a soft reset. I can turn the device off and on at will and it will still open to the correct file on the storage card. If I soft rest it looses that file, and opens with the audible welcome piece which is in main mamory. I then have to drill down to the proper file to open.

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Old 11-21-2005, 03:41 PM
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I'd be curious to see how this works with the Dell Axis X50v with the upgrade or the new X51v, or any non-iMate device.
Unfortunately, I am having the same problem with an X50v upgraded to WM 5. Personally I am using a 1 GB compact flash card, but there have been many complaints about similar probems with various card configurations over on Aximsite.
 
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:45 PM
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Has nobody got anything to say about the My Documents issue?
 
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:44 PM
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I noticed the exact same "lost storage card" issue on my Dell Axim X50v shortly after upgrading; it was maddening! However, after changing the registry value for PNPUnloadDelay to 4096, I haven't noticed this behavior any longer.

I usually have a 1gig SD card and a 2.2gig microdrive CF card plugged in at all times on my Axim. I noticed that after the upgrade to WM5, I could hear the microdrive click, spin-up and then power back down on its own every few minutes. It would do this while sitting suspended on my desk. Needless to say, this had a dire effect on battery life. I've done a few other registry tweaks, so I don't know if the PNPUnloadDelay fixed this issue as well, but I'm not having the microdrive problem any longer now.

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