[PocketPC Addict]

why not tabbed?

[PocketPC Addict]

why not tabbed?

[Ketsugi]

No space on the screen. As it is I want to be able to view websites in fullscreen mode. Having a tab bar across one side just eats up valuable screen real-estate. Plus, with the screen so small, you just can't have text lable on tabs that are long enough to adequately identify the tab. When I browse with tabs I frequently have anything between 4 and 15 tabs open. That's never going to fly on a PPC screen.

[huangzhinong]

I am the exception here. I don't need any other browser at all. PIE is OK for me, enhancedment of PIE is welcome. Installing a 4mb NETFRONT or maybe 2MB opera for internet browsing is not my option at all. For the same reason, I don't need 3MB PI or AF for PIM or 5MB Textmaker for WORD. PPC is a PDA, forever.

[surur]

Tabbed browsing in Netfront works quite well, especially in true VGA mode. The two taps to change pages using the PIE Pocketplus extension is just too unwieldy for me.

Surur

[ADBrown]

Originally Posted by Sven

Native multi-page support would be nice, guess that happens in WM5.

Not likely.

I'd like it to support what IE on the desktop supports.

Even less likely.

Why the heck should I have to get some third party thing to do what MS should be doing right in the first place. It's an IE world out there, PIE should work in it.

Pocket Word shouldn't destroy a file's formatting, either, but MS has never cared much for the built-in apps.

I couldn't be happier. I've been an Opera user ever since version 5.0, when I jumped from the increasingly pointless Netscape. Tabbed browsing, fast rendering, and all the dozens of little touches that you only see once in awhile really make Opera so much better than IE. With such a pathetic competitor on the WM platform, hopefully Opera will shine even more.

[surur]

For the people complaining about PIE and about paying for a browser, browsers are actually quite complicated stuff. They are these days not just parsers, but actually virtual machines, with content that can change dynamically based on user input. Just look at those awful floaters on Amazon to see what i mean. They also need to do what they do securely, and allow extensions by plug-ins.

Just because they are free does not mean they are not hard work to make.

Surur

[BUMP THAT]

I must have this!! Seriously. Opera is great. Now for PPC. of course if it is VGA I want it. Looks like it to me on the screens. Now If we could get a BLUE theme as well that would rock!! Definately looks promissing. The netfront browser that I am using (3.2) will jusy close on me or freeze my PPC. So I hope that this opera is way better.

[logo20heli]

I'm paying $50/year to have Thunderhawk on my machine so I can get decent browsing performance on my PocketPC. And it doesn't even support VGA. While I'd rather have a free alternative browser, I'm still willing to pay some amount (< $50) for a browser. I tried Netfront and didn't like it (why can't they get VGA working). Minimo might be a good alternative when it's matured. I'll also check out Opera when they release it. If its good, I'll pay for it. It will be nice to to have an alternative to Thunderhawk.

[Fedorov]

Originally Posted by Bacco

I'm with the majority posters here. I can't wait. I used Opera on my Smartphone and loved it. Don't know why they started with the Smartphone first.

Same here, used and loved Opera on my Sony P800 phone for a couple of years and even though that was a much smaller screen than I have on my iMate Jam and HP hx4700 it beats all the PPC browsers hands down for speed, rendering, tabs etc....

Can't wait to try this on my PPC!!!

Fedorov.

[Sven Johannsen]

Originally Posted by ADBrown

Not likely.

Yea, you're right. Must have been wishful recollection.

For Surer... expecting MS to produce a viable browser isn't quite like wanting some third party to develop a browser for free. Just as the expectation is that Pocket Word and Pocket Excel, MS products, that are mobile companions to MS products, would be more than they are, so is the expectation that MSs pocket version of their browser should be significantly more than it is. Sure it takes effort, but it can't even open a second window without some third party add-in for pete' sake.

If the effort isn't going to be put into a decent PIE, then I'd say leave it out altogether. Things that were left out, like PowerPoint and Access, generated a wealth of excellent third party offerrings fairly quickly. Things that were included, though pathetic, didn't seem to generate as much third party interest as quickly. Just MHO.