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Old 11-26-2008, 05:34 PM
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Why? MS set all the specs both for the hardware and the software and send the order to HTC which will produce the device branded as Microsoft. Both would make money and probably WINMO could be rescued.
Why? You don't think Samsung, Motorola, and even HTC would be unhappy to have a Microsoft-branded phone competing with them in the marketplace, with the carriers, etc? Trust me, they'd be angry in a big way.
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Old 11-26-2008, 08:09 PM
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Why? You don't think Samsung, Motorola, and even HTC would be unhappy to have a Microsoft-branded phone competing with them in the marketplace, with the carriers, etc? Trust me, they'd be angry in a big way.
I think that's probably why the Danger platform is where we'll see this. However, even it was the WM platform, I'm sure Microsoft would have figured this in. The question in their mind, however, should be how to best advance the platform and make money. To date, Samsung, Motorola, Palm and HTC all have been woefully slow in innovating with Windows Mobile. Microsoft shares blame because they haven't exactly been pushing the envelope regarding the software, but the OEMs have been limiting hardware advances. That combined with lack of control over the end product, updates etc. has to be embarrasing to Microsoft.
 
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Old 11-26-2008, 09:21 PM
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Yeah, I agree - I meant to write that up for Zune Thoughts but didn't get to it. The fact that the Zune has attained enough mindshare to be made fun of is really important. Mockery or not, there's no other MP3 player brand on the market right now that has enough mindshare, even with a geeky audience like Chuck has, to work in a set-up against the iPod.
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Old 11-26-2008, 09:58 PM
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I don't really care for vendors. I was really happy when I heard about Danger.

And now I am just wating for phone developed by Microsoft and Microsoft-branded notebook. I am so frustrated by crapware in notebooks (they even give you recovery DVDs so that you could restore that crapware).

Also I hate buggy drivers and buggy hardware that vendors use to minimize price of their board designs.

Little bit of a *real* competition is needed in the Windows market.

Still, I don't think that MS will produce brilliant thing form the first attempt ... Maybe in 1-2 years...
 
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Old 11-26-2008, 10:07 PM
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Why? You don't think Samsung, Motorola, and even HTC would be unhappy to have a Microsoft-branded phone competing with them in the marketplace, with the carriers, etc? Trust me, they'd be angry in a big way.
Of course they would be unhappy... as well as Microsoft watching HTC producing Android.
As it is WM outlook is not a bright one to say the least so MS needs to take action.
IF MS could drop a phone with new specs and obviously a new OS, a phone that people love and rush to buy you would see Samsung, Motorola, etc. willing to pay even more in order to be able to use the new OS. This is the way the market works.
 
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Old 11-26-2008, 10:13 PM
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Still, I don't think that MS will produce brilliant thing form the first attempt ... Maybe in 1-2 years...
Actually while, up to a certain point, I agree with your statement about MS software my personal exprience with MS hardware have alway been excellent.
I remember when they launched the Wireless routers line: great hardware, very easy setup; why they discontinued it is still a mystery to me.
 
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:12 PM
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Of course they would be unhappy... as well as Microsoft watching HTC producing Android.
As it is WM outlook is not a bright one to say the least so MS needs to take action.
IF MS could drop a phone with new specs and obviously a new OS, a phone that people love and rush to buy you would see Samsung, Motorola, etc. willing to pay even more in order to be able to use the new OS. This is the way the market works.
Didn't work that well for Palm, or Symbian, ah?
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:24 PM
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Why? You don't think Samsung, Motorola, and even HTC would be unhappy to have a Microsoft-branded phone competing with them in the marketplace, with the carriers, etc? Trust me, they'd be angry in a big way.
Samsung doesn't have a coherent smartphone strategy. Motorola and Sony Ericsson are going bust fast. And I assume any Microsoft-branded phone would be manufactured by HTC. You've got three largely irrelevant companies that would be angry and one that would be pretty happy.

Microsoft has got some big challenges ahead. All of its rivals are either soon to be open source/free (Symbian, Android) or have tight hardware integration (Mobile OSX, BB OS). Microsoft needs to join one of the camps soon and I can't see it going down the free, open source route.
 
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:59 AM
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Just as a side note:

Microsoft sold 18 million WM licenses between July 2007 - July 2008.

Even Apple uses Windows WM/CE handhelds in its stores.
 
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Old 11-27-2008, 02:50 AM
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Just as a side note:

Microsoft sold 18 million WM licenses between July 2007 - July 2008.

Even Apple uses Windows WM/CE handhelds in its stores.
Few observations:

Sold licenses are not sold phones
Sales of the OS licenses came short of MS own projections
MS employees use iPhones

Btw I a not an Apple fan, I am a concerned MS shareholder. (-:
 
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