2. Check out the main Software forum here - I've posted tons of new reviews in the meantime. I will only competely rewrite this article when the new Opera Mobile is released and we get a picture how good NetFront 3.4 is.
2. Check out the main Software forum here - I've posted tons of new reviews in the meantime. I will only competely rewrite this article when the new Opera Mobile is released and we get a picture how good NetFront 3.4 is.
once again excellent article...i could read your stuff all day. now, the but... i tried opera mobile and i just cant seem to understand how it can at the point of "it rocks"... it is better then netfront3.3 in many ways... but even with my old(very old) wm2003 pie with pieplus, nothing comes close(even with the freeze ups). pieplus's hardware button support and the easy of use and the web text layout are unbeatable. sorry to be so blunt, but are u geting paid off to say opera is better(j/k ). opera uses a lot of memory resource and with resco keyboard it does not work well. only good part(and nothing new since netfront) is the support for sites that otherwise would not work(or resort to mobile version) opera is good, but not great. the lack of even back/forward/stop touch buttons at the bottom are too annoying. for me ppc's r still suppose to be used as much as u can with 1 hand... unless u want to input data. keep up the work and stay true.
once again excellent article...i could read your stuff all day. now, the but... i tried opera mobile and i just cant seem to understand how it can at the point of "it rocks"... it is better then netfront3.3 in many ways... but even with my old(very old) wm2003 pie with pieplus, nothing comes close(even with the freeze ups). pieplus's hardware button support and the easy of use and the web text layout are unbeatable. sorry to be so blunt, but are u geting paid off to say opera is better(j/k ). opera uses a lot of memory resource and with resco keyboard it does not work well. only good part(and nothing new since netfront) is the support for sites that otherwise would not work(or resort to mobile version) opera is good, but not great. the lack of even back/forward/stop touch buttons at the bottom are too annoying. for me ppc's r still suppose to be used as much as u can with 1 hand... unless u want to input data. keep up the work and stay true.
Yes, this is why I've posted the remark at Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:02 am:
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Originally Posted by Menneisyys
"BTW, many have asked why there's neither "Verdict" nor "Most recommended" section in the Bible. The answer is very simple: while I, personally, consider Opera Mobile 8.65 the best browser closely followed by the WM6 (or, at least, WM5 AKU2+ - previous versions were 50% slower to load pages and, therefore, I wouldn't really be able to return to using them) IEM equipped with PIEPlus 2.2 if the bad JavaScript / non-existing AJAX support and the relatively high memory usage aren't a problem.
However, as you may have drastically different requirements, the above may not be the right solution for you. For example, you can ONLY use free software because, for example, you need the cheapest solution for enterprise-wide deployment, which means you'll need to cast a glance at Webby, Minimo or, probably the best free alternative, Opera Mini. Or, alternatively, you want to keep the original page layout on your low-resolution QVGA model; then, the first browser you should check out is Thunderhawk (not taking DeepFish into account).
That is, there was a reason I didn't (and still don't) provide a quick recommendation. There are a LOT of factors you need to consider when selecting your browser of your choice. You WILL want to thoroughly examine the feature / comparison chart, thoroughly compare each feature and consider whether the lack of a given feature is a showstopper for you or not. Providing a some-sentence-recommendation like ""go for Minimo if you need a free and, therefore, easily mass-deployable browser and memory consumption isn't an issue", "go for Opera Mini if you need minimal memory consumption, speed and also being free" or "stay with PIE if you don't need strong JavaScript / AJAX / CSS support and multitabs but want a free, dependable browser"" would have been an oversimplification.
I felt it useless to try to even replicate the information available in the comparison / feature chart in a Verdict section - there's simply too much information, I would have ended up pages on this "simple" subject. This is why I’ve left it out altogether – you’ll need to consult the chart so that you can make an educated, informed decision.."
the one at Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:43 am:
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Originally Posted by Menneisyys
"Finally, I can not stress and emphasize enough: if you have a specific need but lack the time to fully scrutinize the chart, use in-page searching (Ctrl-F) to quickly find the compatibility information you need. For example, if you want to know Flash, AJAX or JavaScript compliance, just use the word in question (for example "Flash") as the search expression and you'll really quickly find out which chart row discusses the given question."
the one at Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:29 am :
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Originally Posted by Menneisyys
"I've just been told by the excellent Opera folks that Opera Mobile, the, taking into everything and giving particular weight to Web standards compliance, best and fastest Web browser for Windows Mobile, will remain WM2003(SE) compatible, even in the forthcoming, 9.x series.
This is very good news for all WM2003(SE) users. Not only because the built-in Pocket Internet Explorer, in WM2003(SE), is way worse than Opera Mobile (it was only in WM5 AKU2 that its rendering / page loading speed, at last, has been seriously increased), but also because, it seems, all the notable, new / forthcoming alternatives (NetFront 3.4, Picsel, DeepFish - see the Windows Mobile Web Browser Bible for more info on all these titles) are WM5+ only."
Finally, the newly-added Verdict section in the Picsel browser review:
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Originally Posted by Menneisyys
"While many (particularly Palm) people love the Picsel browser (and it has a lot of loyal Windows Mobile followers; for example, the excellent vijay555 at XDA-Developers), I don't think it's as good as the leading Windows Mobile Web browsers, particularly Opera Mobile 8.65 and the built-in PIE in WM5 AKU2+ / WM6 with a decent plug-in (like PIEPlus 2.2).
That is, I generally recommend two browsers for mostly VGA users (QVGA users also want to check out Thunderhawk): Opera Mobile and, as a very close second (unlike with the other browsers - they are not very close at all), PIE + PIEPlus 2.2, the latter particularly in WM5 AKU2+ because of the speed improvement over previous PIE versions.
It's just that I don't put much weight on for example hardware button use or Java (in which OPMob really sucks) that I still prefer (the much more standards-compliant and, therefore, with more pages compatible) and still faster OpMob for general browsing.
However, I've also emphasized in the WM Web Browsing Bible, other people may have other preferences - this is why there is a big comparison / feature chart in there.
(I wish I got paid by Opera BTW Now I had to temporarily stop buying new hardware because I had to pay some $4000 to my dentist and also paid some $1500 to get a really big shelf to put my Computing Museum stuff on (hundreds of old books, thousands of mags, old cassettes, cartridges, computers etc). This also means I may not purchse new toys for some 3-4 months at least. Fortunately, I have several current devices now so it isn't a real problem for me - that is, I can test the latest software on several WM5+ Pocket PC's.)
You mean the Pocket View (aka One column) mode in PIEPlus? All decent alternate browsers support this, including Opera Mobile.
1st, i apologize if it came of rude....i really appreciate your articles and u have made so many great comments on positives/negatives aspects of all apps....so thanks again.
the text layout in pieplus is smart(er) enough to make everything look almost identical to a desktop browser. i think it has to do with the settings in pieplus that control the pocket view, mine is set to split text longer than 22 characters. also my pie text is set to Largest. i dont what to go blind from reading your articles on my ppc.
i know the other apps do support this, but for some reason it just does not look the same on ALL sites.
maybe its just me. ??? maybe i am getting paid to say pieplus is better...j/k.
ohhh and the scroll support for my side hardware buttons on opera is only link/link not page/page. very annoying with 1 handed readings.
i will send out a request that u DO get PAID from the developers.
p.s. opera on wm2003 does have bugs...browser will just shutdown at times when clicking on links.
i will send out a request that u DO get PAID from the developers.
Better not - then, I couldn't maintain independence and being unbiased (BTW, this is why I, in general, only request fiulll versions when absolutely necessary and, in general, try to write reviews of time-restricted but still 100% working trials instead. It'd be very hard to bite the feeding hand.)
(Albeit anyone could - officially - contract my employer with mobility-related stuff so that, my employer's finding this profitable, I could officially spend all my worktime on writing articles, tutorials, books and the like on Windows Mobile. Now I need to do some other / additional stuff in my office hours - for example, I've been working on / learning data mining, hidden Markov model-related stuff - via Febrl - for several days. Not that I don't like discovering new stuff; it's just that it takes all my time I would more happily spend on writing WinMob-related stuff.)
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